Transcribed fr. a mixed LC/SB convo:
Aura: But do you feel like you're unlucky?
Shad: In some ways (stupid politicians) yes, but looking @wealth, standard of living, etc. compared to like El Salvador, no
Shad: so it could be better, but it could also be far worse
Aura: and what about homeless people? and guns? And health care?
Aura: and hardly any welfare?
for a wealthy/1st world country, I do feel unlucky
Shad:but comparing even the US to 3rd world countries, I feel extremely lucky--I get an education, I have a place to sleep every night, I don't live in constant fear of government-sanctioned killing. I know you live in Australia; have you ever been to a 3rd world country, even for just a week? What we in the US think of as poor are far better off than many people in such places. The homes we built in El Salvador are smaller than my dorm room and house an entire family--the families were incredibly glad for even this small space. We can't drink their water--it contains bacteria 1st-World stomachs have no immunity to. But they grow up drinking dirty water. So yeah, I kinda feel lucky to live in the US, compared to a 3rd world country. But within the 1st world, I'd rather not be in the US.
Shad: Have you ever been to a 3rd world country?
Shad: b/c it really puts 1st-world poverty in perspective
Aura:Yes. I totally agree. The US has way good living conditions. My main point was in comparison to Australia, it really sucks. Because of the politics here being different, so when I see how many homeless pppl you have and the lack of accessible healthcare, while in Autsrlia, we have free healthcare and welfare for the unemployed, and we don't suffer monetarily for it. So therefore, it is just BS all the excuse politicians use, like that ot would cost too much etc. I just think the US cares more about big business, and ppl who are doing well than for the little guy.
Shad: lol agreed, w/in the 1st world, the US sucks
Shad:but it's still 1st world, y'know
Aura:Yeah, I wouldn't compare US to 3rd world. There's no comparison there!
Shad: have you paid attention at all to the US debate over raising the debt ceiling?
Aura: Like, in US, people end up paying off a healthcare debt for like 20 years!!!
Shad: so, it's a dilemna, b/c you asked the open-ended question "do you feel unlucky?"
Aura: No, explain pls.
Shad: so it's a complicated answer
Aura: Yeah, I was just being facetious.
Shad: so, I think it's global knowledge that the US govt is ridiculously much in debt?
And this is where I pick up/continue my debt discussion explanation with her.
Basically, the US has a self-imposed "debt ceiling", a limit on the amount they can borrow. Well, within the next couple weeks, the US reaches that limit. In the past, the govt has raised the ceiling with nary a hitch. But this time, and earlier this year, last time they raised the the debt ceiling, it became opportunity for a lot of posturing by the newly-formed Tea Party, who are kind of like libertarians, except they still want all the benefits of government, just without the taxes. Except somehow, also without debt. Yeah, I don't get their logic.
Anyways, the Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling b/c that would make the Democrat president look good. But they need to, or their constituents will hate them. So, they're all posturing, and fighting, and claiming that they can't/won't change their positions one iota, until the last minute. Almost literally. I was reminded of this by Aura's statement about the BS that is US politics. Feel free to continue from any perspective/sub-topic.