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Posted by: Machina Mar 1 2018, 02:40 AM
Long ago, the world was nothing more than an endless sea, cloaked in a boundless sky reaching as far as could possibly be imagined.
Then two great titans came into existence... The Bionis, and the Mechonis.
The titans were locked in a timeless battle, until at last... Only their lifeless corpses remained.

In time, life flourished on the remains of the Bionis. But the Mechonis' corpse had also give rise to its own mechanical life-forms, and the so-called "Mechon" seemed determined to wipe out all Bionis life, including the human-like Homs.

However, not all was as it seemed...
Neither of the slumbering titans were truly dead.
While the soul of the Mechonis treated its denizens with respect, and was not actually the one responsible for the attacks on the people of Bionis, the soul of the other sleeping titan viewed the myriad forms of life dwelling on its body as nothing more than sustenance for its own eternal existence, to be periodically wiped out so that none of them could ever advance far enough to leave its body behind. And the time of the Bionis' reawakening is drawing ever closer...




Xenoblade Chronicles Mafia



The Heroes of Bionis (Goodies)
Wincon - Thwart Zanza's Disciples and put a stop to the Mechon threat.
(Lynch/kill all baddies and Egil)

Shulk
A Homs engineer from Colony 9, and wielder of the Monado, a strange sword-like weapon that sometimes grants him visions of possible futures.

-Set of ODTG night abilities: Kill, save, block, faction spy

Reyn
Shulk's childhood friend. A jovial fellow, he is fiercely loyal to his companions and would gladly lay down his own life to preserve Shulk's.

-Automatically saves Shulk every night. Can be blocked/redirected. When redirected onto a target other than Shulk, the visit has no effect.
-Knows who Shulk is.

Sharla
A medic from the Colony 6 Defense Force, and survivor from the Mechon assault on said colony. Fights to avenge her fallen comrades, including her deceased fiancé, Gadolt.

-Save

Dunban
The previous wielder of the Monado and hero of the Homs. Lost the use of his right arm due to injuries sustained when the Monado rejected him as its wielder.

-If attacked (and not saved) at night, does not die until the end of next day cycle.

Melia
The half High Entia, half Homs princess of Alcamoth, who is next in line to the throne.

-Faction spy

Riki
The Nopon "Heropon" hailing from Makna Forest's Frontier Village. In reality, he is just fulfilling the role of Heropon to pay off massive debt to the village chief.

-x3 vote manip. Target is picked at night and the multiplier is active the following day, even if Riki is dead. Cannot be used on self. Target is told their vote was boosted at the beginning of the day.

Fiora
A childhood friend of Shulk and Reyn, previously believed to have been killed during a Mechon attack on Colony 9. In reality she was captured and her body was mechanized to serve Egil's ends, but she was later saved by Shulk and co.

-Kill

Alvis
A mysterious fellow with an odd manner of speaking. Served as Alcamoth's seer under the emperor, and seems to have ties to Zanza.

-ODTG at night, may enter 1-on-1 private BTSC with a player of his choice. (Cannot be blocked or redirected)
-Appears baddie to spies

(One, and only one of the following roles will appear at random)

Emperor Sorean
The current emperor of the High Entia and Melia's father.

-Target spy

Juju
Sharla's little brother and leader of the Colony 6 restoration effort.

-Follow spy

Chief Dunga
The leader of the Nopon and chief of Frontier Village.

-Beep spy (Choose 3 players each night. If exactly one is a baddie or Alvis, receives a "beep")


Zanza's Disciples (Baddies)
Wincon - Ensure the eternal cycle of death and rebirth continues unhindered.
(Wipe out goodies and indy. Game will immediately end if indy is dead and the goodies cannot conceivably win under any circumstances.)
-Have BTSC and uncarried kill. May trade kill for 2 RID kills. (Can be saved)

Zanza
The immortal soul of the Bionis. Considers himself a god and sees all other life as beneath him.

-Cannot be killed at night.
-Appears innocent to spies.
-ODTG at night may boost the faction kill to an unstoppable Kill+Block. (Kills Dunban instantly, is still not carried. Cannot be used when trading kill for 2 RID kills)

Lorithia
The head of Alcamoth's Ministry of Research. She has secretly been scheming with Zanza to revert the other High Entia to their original, feral Telethia forms under his thrall, in exchange for her own immortality.

-Redirect

Dickson
Dunban's old war buddy and Shulk's father figure. Actually a Giant in disguise, he has been subtly manipulating all the races of Bionis to his master's ends.

-Block
-Self vote manip x0-x2


The Mechon (Indy)
Wincon - Destroy Zanza permanently by killing him and cutting off his energy supply, which includes all those unfortunate enough to have been born from the Bionis.
(Be among the final 4. Game ends immediately on an indy win)

Egil
An exile of the machine-like, humanoid Machina race originating from Mechonis. He has seized control of the Mechonis, betraying his own people and the soul of the titan itself, in single-mindedly pursuing the complete and utter destruction of the Bionis.

-Has a kill+role spy every even night. (Uncarried)
-Can kill every night once all baddies are dead.
-Cannot be killed at night.
-Appears innocent to spies
-If killed by Zanza, Egil's RID is immediately revealed as he dies.




Special rules/mechanics
-Tie lynch: D1 nobody dies, D2 onwards all players in the tie die.
-You will be told if blocked, even if no action was prevented.
-You will not be told if your block was successful or not.
-You will be told if your redirect was successful.
-Redirect fails if target was not taking any action.
-You will not be told if redirected.
-Zanza's ODTG kill will bypass Dunban's delayed death, Egil's night immunity, Reyn's save and Sharla's save.
-ODTG abilities are used up even if the effect is blocked or otherwise fails.
-The baddie RID kills do not require both guesses to be correct. However, only correctly-RID'd targets will die.
-In the event Riki targets Dickson, Riki's vote manip overwrites Dickson's for the upcoming day, forcefully locking Dickson's vote to x3.
-Egil's role spy is always accurate.
-As Egil's kill is uncarried, it cannot be blocked.
-Redirects on beep spy will change their FIRST target. The other two will remain unchanged. If this forces the beep spy to target the same person twice, then they are counted twice.

What shows in the night post:
-Successful kills (Including the killing role responsible, and the type of kill)
-Unsuccessful kills (including those thwarted by a save, but not RID kills with incorrect RID guesses. What prevented the kill is NOT shown)

What shows in the day post:
-Lynched players' names and roles
-Dunban succumbing to his wounds

OOA: Alvis's BTSC establishment >> Redirect >> Zanza's ODTG unstoppable kill+block >> Block >> Spy (all types) >> Riki >> Save >> Kill (Including the baddie NK, RID kills, and Egil's hybrid kill+spy)

Posted by: Machina Mar 1 2018, 02:44 AM
Host: Machina
1. maurice
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi
5. araver
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk
11. Phaze
12. dee
13. Insaner

Posted by: plas_mod Mar 1 2018, 03:00 AM
BTSCs are set up. Start yaking.

Posted by: Machina Mar 1 2018, 03:29 AM
All role PMs have been sent.

N1 will end on March 3rd, 10pm EST.


EDIT: Changed deadline to March 2nd. Miscalculated there, apologies.

Posted by: araver Mar 1 2018, 03:54 AM
Confirming.

Also, rereading the OP.

Posted by: Boquise Mar 1 2018, 04:47 AM
I'll show you a thing or three!

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 1 2018, 05:34 AM
Pfffffffffft

Posted by: Insaner Mar 1 2018, 06:11 AM
Let's do this! http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/cheer.gif

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 1 2018, 08:31 AM
Claiming goodie is still a thing right? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 1 2018, 10:29 AM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 1 2018, 06:31 AM)
Claiming goodie is still a thing right? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

That is sooo 2012. But sure do it.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 1 2018, 11:14 AM
blast, I knew I was rusty...but such a blunder...http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sigh.gif

Posted by: dee Mar 1 2018, 12:59 PM
Oh. Nice to be back here. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/smile.gif

Posted by: Phaze Mar 1 2018, 02:06 PM
You are all going to die

Posted by: sparrowhawk Mar 1 2018, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (plas_mod @ Feb 28 2018, 11:00 PM)
BTSCs are set up. Start yaking.

Yaking? Is that something you do when you're excited to be clearing your yard in the fall? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 1 2018, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 1 2018, 12:06 PM)
You are all going to die


Too late for me, my soul died years ago.

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 1 2018, 02:45 PM
When I think of "yaking" I think of hairballs...http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 1 2018, 02:49 PM
QUOTE (Marquessa @ Mar 1 2018, 12:45 PM)
When I think of "yaking" I think of hairballs...http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif


Then make sense since the cat said it...

Maybe it's a clue

Posted by: Phaze Mar 1 2018, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 06:43 AM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 1 2018, 12:06 PM)
You are all going to die


Too late for me, my soul died years ago.

I just thought I'd start out light-heartedly with nothing dark and ominous
good luck with that soul thing my favored nemesis

Posted by: onetruth Mar 1 2018, 03:06 PM
So, now's the time for me to read the OP?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 1 2018, 03:10 PM


Edit size

Posted by: maurice Mar 1 2018, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (onetruth @ Mar 1 2018, 01:06 PM)
So, now's the time for me to read the OP?


I wouldnt bother.

The decision has been rendered. I tried to plead on your behalf but I'm but one lonely voice.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 1 2018, 04:30 PM
So there IS a bit of spunkiness left in Mo after Skyrim. ...That's probably bad for me...

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hiding.gif

EDIT: Emote fix

Posted by: Hachi Mar 1 2018, 08:18 PM
Please just don't kill me lol.
I is goodie I swear.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 1 2018, 10:21 PM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 2 2018, 12:18 PM)
Please just don't kill me lol.
I is goodie I swear.

Because you would not expect any baddies to pay attention to your feeble pleas means this message is intended for Fiora. This means you must be claiming not Fiora , not Shulk, nor Sharla also unlikely that you are Dunban that you know you will not die till tomorrow I suppose that fits given that Maurices soulless comment hints he could be Fiora

Posted by: Hachi Mar 1 2018, 11:03 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 1 2018, 09:21 PM)
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 2 2018, 12:18 PM)
Please just don't kill me lol.
I is goodie I swear.

Because you would not expect any baddies to pay attention to your feeble pleas means this message is intended for Fiora. This means you must be claiming not Fiora , not Shulk, nor Sharla also unlikely that you are Dunban that you know you will not die till tomorrow I suppose that fits given that Maurices soulless comment hints he could be Fiora


Actually it was just fluff. I never drop hints this early. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lmao.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 12:55 AM
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

Perv

Posted by: Phaze Mar 2 2018, 03:53 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 04:55 PM)
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

Perv

Inb4 RID

Posted by: Insaner Mar 2 2018, 04:04 AM
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 2 2018, 05:03 AM
QUOTE (Marquessa @ Mar 2 2018, 06:45 AM)
When I think of "yaking" I think of hairballs...http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif

Hachi for future reference this is how you fluff post

Edit for Petes sake get the names right Phaze

Posted by: Boquise Mar 2 2018, 09:28 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 09:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Born in a world of strife!

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 2 2018, 09:32 AM
So you're telling me that my subtly dropped hints that I am in fact a goodie went completely astray?

Damnation...I don't know enough about XBC to catch or drop...time for a binge-watching of a story playthrough...

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 09:49 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 02:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.


Keep what in our pants? The fluff?

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 09:50 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 07:49 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 02:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.


Keep what in our pants? The fluff?


Ha! Insaner, you fool! You so just hard claimed a baddie. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/winktongue.gif



Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 09:59 AM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 09:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Born in a world of strife!


Aren't we all.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 2 2018, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 01:50 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 07:49 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 02:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.


Keep what in our pants? The fluff?


Ha! Insaner, you fool! You so just hard claimed a baddie. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/winktongue.gif

Wanna be my first kill? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/glare.gif

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 2 2018, 11:44 AM
Hang on a second... *looks at the roster*

Vomm isn't in the lineup...how am I going to get killed N1?

Posted by: Boquise Mar 2 2018, 12:17 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 02:59 PM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 09:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Born in a world of strife!


Aren't we all.

Against the odds

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 12:31 PM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 02:59 PM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 09:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Born in a world of strife!


Aren't we all.

Against the odds


Phil Collins
Was in Genesis
Means the beginning
Or origins
Machina originated from Mechonis
Notably Egil...

Thanks for the hint http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wink.gif

Posted by: Boquise Mar 2 2018, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 02:59 PM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 09:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Born in a world of strife!


Aren't we all.

Against the odds


Phil Collins
Was in Genesis
Means the beginning
Or origins
Machina originated from Mechonis
Notably Egil...

Thanks for the hint http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wink.gif

we choose to fight!

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 2 2018, 01:27 PM
Ok...wow...4 hints already (possibly 5...still trying to work one out). I know pre-game WiFOM is normal but sheesh don't be so blatant!!

Also of note, nothing in any of my statements up to and including this post has any bearing whatsoever on my role in this or any currently active Mafia game. Any similarities to persons of actual existence, interest, or direct correlation to XBC in any manner is strictly coincidental and unintentional. I tend to use this voice when I am confusing others but what usually happens is I confuse myself so I think I might need to stop before P!nk songs start playing in my head agai...

...

dammit, too late http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/help.gif

EDIT: formatting

Posted by: Phaze Mar 2 2018, 02:16 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 01:32 AM)
So you're telling me that my subtly dropped hints that I am in fact a goodie went completely astray?

Damnation...I don't know enough about XBC to catch or drop...time for a binge-watching of a story playthrough...

Just who are you trying to convince/ you are a goodieWFOM? Unless you are the Indy the baddies know your alliigence. If you are are goodie I cannot see the benefit of broadcasting it. Your instant goodie claim will only confuse your teammates. Marking this as anti-town.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 2 2018, 02:30 PM
I refer you to my previous post and have no further comment.

Posted by: Hirkala Mar 2 2018, 03:30 PM
I am a rooster illusion!!!

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 04:21 PM
QUOTE (Hirkala @ Mar 2 2018, 01:30 PM)
I am a rooster illusion!!!



Are you claiming a magic сосk?

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 04:26 PM
DarthMask

I find your insistence that you didn't claim unsettling considering you're now saying they're have been upwards of 5 blatant claims. Are you including me? Despite Phaze's assertion, I've not made a claim. Hence my cigar if just a cigar post.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 2 2018, 06:25 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 08:26 AM)
  Despite Phaze's assertion, I've not made a claim. Hence my cigar if just a cigar post.

Half truths do not suit you. Whilst you may not have explicitly claimed would I be mistaken in thinking that you have made a statement (out of necessity mind) that would suggest that you might be a particular role? (if explored further that is)

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 06:41 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 2 2018, 04:25 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 08:26 AM)
  Despite Phaze's assertion, I've not made a claim. Hence my cigar if just a cigar post.

Half truths do not suit you. Whilst you may not have explicitly claimed would I be mistaken in thinking that you have made a statement (out of necessity mind) that would suggest that you might be a particular role? (if explored further that is)


Verily mistaken.

I made that clear. A cigar is just a cigar.

Posted by: maurice Mar 2 2018, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 04:41 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 2 2018, 04:25 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 08:26 AM)
  Despite Phaze's assertion, I've not made a claim. Hence my cigar if just a cigar post.

Half truths do not suit you. Whilst you may not have explicitly claimed would I be mistaken in thinking that you have made a statement (out of necessity mind) that would suggest that you might be a particular role? (if explored further that is)


Verily mistaken.

I made that clear. A cigar is just a cigar.



Any attempt to pin a claim on me would require quite the stretch. But go for it, try to RID Kill me.

I'm likely to die anyway. Onetruth blames me for her recent deaths http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sigh.gif

Posted by: Phaze Mar 2 2018, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 2 2018, 07:12 AM)
QUOTE (onetruth @ Mar 1 2018, 01:06 PM)
So, now's the time for me to read the OP?


I wouldnt bother.

The decision has been rendered. I tried to plead on your behalf but I'm but one lonely voice.

maurice my mistake the I read the above as a subtle "I'm your plus one to OT"

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 2 2018, 08:10 PM
I feel crappay today...not enuff sleep

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 2 2018, 08:27 PM
That's...probably not good...given the post content so far...

I'd consider getting some soundproofing. I hear silence helps with your issues http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thumbsup.gif

Posted by: Boquise Mar 2 2018, 09:42 PM
Are you guys rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeaaady to rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrumble like the Zekenator?!

Posted by: Machina Mar 2 2018, 11:01 PM
N1: The Beginning of the End.



Throughout Colony 6, there was an uneasy silence.

In light of recent revelations regarding the Bionis' opinion of its denizens, and with the threat of the Mechon looming over everyone's heads, tensions were high. Nobody felt safe.
And for good reason.

Just before dawn broke, a swarm of the flying monstrosities known as Telethia descended upon Araver. Horribly outnumbered, he didn't last long.


Zanza's Disciples killed Araver



Host: Machina
1. maurice
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk
11. Phaze
12. dee
13. Insaner

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1



D1 ends on the 3rd, 10pm EST.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 2 2018, 11:05 PM
I was blocked last night. any CCS?

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 2 2018, 11:46 PM
http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif I gained no information whatsoever overnight so I have no grounds to CC.

Hmmm...I would say to start pressuring but I need to sleep on this a bit more to see if there is anything more I can dredge from that (rather sparse) NP.

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 2 2018, 11:58 PM
Well I am no farther illuminated than before...http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sigh.gif

Posted by: sparrowhawk Mar 3 2018, 12:21 AM
Not a lot to go on. Wonder what araver did to deserve death? I don't have anything to CC Phaze.

I guess I'll start. What say you Hirk?

Host: Machina
1. maurice
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze
12. dee
13. Insaner

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 01:35 AM
I wonder who liked me.

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/facepalm.gif

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lmao.gif


OK. OK.. I get it

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 01:40 AM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 2 2018, 08:28 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 2 2018, 09:04 AM)
Don't hint away your roles or we all die http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif Keep it in your pants, please.

Born in a world of strife!


Against the Odds!

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 01:41 AM
Wait s*** day started!?

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 01:41 AM
Post said March 3 I WAS NOT READY

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 01:45 AM
Vote: Boquise

Good to see you Boq! How are you doing tbh?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 01:59 AM
Who to vote for? I think Framm tends to be a pretty good conveyor of info...

Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Frammalammadingdong
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze
12. dee
13. Insaner

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Edit - tag snag

Posted by: Phaze Mar 3 2018, 03:17 AM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Frammalammadingdong
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze - voting for Dee
12. dee
13. Insaner

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

dee what is you current objective game wise speaking and how do you plan to achieve it.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 04:05 AM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Frammalammadingdong
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze - voting for Dee
12. dee
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1


Tell me something that only a goodie SH could say.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 04:12 AM
Every time I saw mo make a butt joke on N1 he was a non-goodie.

Last night he made a соск joke http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

user posted image

Posted by: Phaze Mar 3 2018, 04:42 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 08:12 PM)
Every time I saw mo make a butt joke on N1 he was a non-goodie.

Last night he made a соск joke http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

user posted image

If you really want to throw shade Maurice way I'd suggest examining the way he made sure he talked to each of the active participants last night at least once. While appreciated this could also be done to distance himself from teammates. Marking the above post as "throwing shade in a teacup"

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 3 2018, 08:42 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 08:12 PM)
Every time I saw mo make a butt joke on N1 he was a non-goodie.

Last night he made a соск joke http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

user posted image

If you really want to throw shade Maurice way I'd suggest examining the way he made sure he talked to each of the active participants last night at least once. While appreciated this could also be done to distance himself from teammates. Marking the above post as "throwing shade in a teacup"

If I really wanted to throw shade on anyone I would use something better than a соск joke.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 3 2018, 05:11 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 08:58 PM)

If I really wanted to throw shade on anyone I would  use something better than a соск joke.

*Phaze gives Insaner gold star for paying attention

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 05:21 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 3 2018, 09:11 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 08:58 PM)

If I really wanted to throw shade on anyone I would  use something better than a соск joke.

*Phaze gives Insaner gold star for paying attention

Interesting follow up, considering that I used these same letters in my previous post.

^that was me throwing shade, by the way http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thanks.gif

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 05:41 AM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 3 2018, 06:45 AM)
Vote: Boquise

Good to see you Boq! How are you doing tbh?

Hello Hachi! I see that you kept going with the Born in a world of strife meme. Although I had only "Blossom Dance!" left to say tbh...

I am decent. And bitter. Aside from losing Skyrim Mafia, I was the losing factor in a MU game that ended last night. Been low power for a lil while so hoping I can do good in this game at least.

How are you tbh?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 3 2018, 05:42 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 09:21 PM)

Interesting follow up, considering that I used these same letters in my previous post.

^that was me throwing shade, by the way http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thanks.gif


I don't know if I am getting the point but I find quotes nested too deep to be distracting, don't you?

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 05:43 AM
vote Insaner
Always have a problem reading you so hoping I can get it done early this game tbh

How's you?!

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 05:58 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 3 2018, 09:42 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 09:21 PM)

Interesting follow up, considering that I used these same letters in my previous post.

^that was me throwing shade, by the way http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thanks.gif


I don't know if I am getting the point but I find quotes nested too deep to be distracting, don't you?

I do too, but I'm on phone now and it hasn't yet got to the point where I would bother to start deleting them.

Your post about giving me a gold star was weird, since you could just make it in response to my initial post). Like if you wanted to back out of an attempt to shade me.

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:11 AM
Aaaaall byyyy myyyyyseeeelf

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 06:13 AM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 09:43 AM)
vote Insaner
Always have a problem reading you so hoping I can get it done early this game tbh

How's you?!

Sup http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif

Yeah, I also felt bitter after that Skyrim loss and was really hoping to redeem myself here. As far as reading me goes, I don't know why everybody is always so wary of me http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif I always view myself as a pretty obvious town http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:17 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 09:43 AM)
vote Insaner
Always have a problem reading you so hoping I can get it done early this game tbh

How's you?!

Sup http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif

Yeah, I also felt bitter after that Skyrim loss and was really hoping to redeem myself here. As far as reading me goes, I don't know why everybody is always so wary of me http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif I always view myself as a pretty obvious town http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif

I think it is a dose of paranoia and that you have the potential to pull off out of the box strategies tbh

Are you wary of Phaze atm?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 06:23 AM
I love the notes people have on me... I call bs though...

Insaner examples, please, of me making butt jokes as non gooodie
Phaze a list please of everyone who was active N1 and an example of me engaging them
Boquise you like dancing or what?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 06:28 AM
Too many shenanigans, even for my taste

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 06:37 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 10:23 AM)
I love the notes people have on me... I call bs though...

Insaner  examples, please,  of me making butt jokes as non gooodie
Phaze a list please of everyone who was active N1 and an example of me engaging them
Boquise you like dancing or what?

Lolcat mafia
Skyrim mafia

That was my fabled N1 read on you in Skyrim tbh http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/biggrin.gif

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:38 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:23 AM)
I love the notes people have on me... I call bs though...

Insaner  examples, please,  of me making butt jokes as non gooodie
Phaze a list please of everyone who was active N1 and an example of me engaging them
Boquise you like dancing or what?

Yeah I was pretty good at bugg as a child tbh

Posted by: Phaze Mar 3 2018, 06:40 AM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Frammalammadingdong
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze * - voting for MarqFinal
12. dee
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1


Hmm I was hoping to have Dee speak up before now. As nothing has happened I will move to what I think is a real pressIng concern. Marq has posted nothing but fluff. I take this to mean that she does not want to appear inactive, but she does want to fly under the radar. It is this that I mistrust

@Marq you may wish to address how you thought fluff posts were going to help the goodies

The reason for marking it final and the * beside my name is that I don' as a rulet mafia Sundays. Nz time now is about 11:30 pm Saturday night.

Before you decide to bandwagon the absent please recall that I am as yet unccd blocked. I believe that unless the baddies did something unconventional and unwise this does give me a small amount of grace. If you are curious about the rather dark opening I was trying to survive N1 by suggesting I might be immortal. I hope this clears things up and pre-empts any murderous attempts in absence. I will still be around for the next 1/2 hour

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 09:43 AM)
vote Insaner
Always have a problem reading you so hoping I can get it done early this game tbh

How's you?!

Sup http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif

Yeah, I also felt bitter after that Skyrim loss and was really hoping to redeem myself here. As far as reading me goes, I don't know why everybody is always so wary of me http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif I always view myself as a pretty obvious town http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif

I think it is a dose of paranoia and that you have the potential to pull off out of the box strategies tbh

Are you wary of Phaze atm?

Yeah...kinda

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:46 AM
Well Phaze you COULD have been blocked by Shulk

Doesn't Marq always fluff post at N1?

Posted by: dee Mar 3 2018, 06:47 AM
Phaze sorry I wasn't online earlier. Find hints and non-goodies. Be active and try to understand more the posts, reread, etc, etc. Though I'm a little bit puzzled why you need to claim so early of being blocked?

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:48 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 11:45 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 09:43 AM)
vote Insaner
Always have a problem reading you so hoping I can get it done early this game tbh

How's you?!

Sup http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif

Yeah, I also felt bitter after that Skyrim loss and was really hoping to redeem myself here. As far as reading me goes, I don't know why everybody is always so wary of me http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif I always view myself as a pretty obvious town http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif

I think it is a dose of paranoia and that you have the potential to pull off out of the box strategies tbh

Are you wary of Phaze atm?

Yeah...kinda


Is it solely because of the gold star post or anything else? What do you make out of the block claim?

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:49 AM
For what it's worth, Hachi going straight at me to try figuring me out is imo a goodie sign

Posted by: dee Mar 3 2018, 06:52 AM
Boquise Hmm. How so? Explain please

edit: regarding Hachi figuring you out

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:54 AM
Don't forget me!

Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Frammalammadingdong
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze * - voting for MarqFinal
12. dee
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1


Posted by: Phaze Mar 3 2018, 06:55 AM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 10:46 PM)
Well Phaze you COULD have been blocked by Shulk

Doesn't Marq always fluff post at N1?

Then I'd have a cc wouldn't I

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:56 AM
QUOTE (dee @ Mar 3 2018, 11:52 AM)
Boquise Hmm. How so? Explain please

edit: regarding Hachi figuring you out

Hachi as a goodie usually goes at me as the first thing in games. As baddie imo he tries to avoid me durin at least early game

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 06:58 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 3 2018, 11:55 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 10:46 PM)
Well Phaze you COULD have been blocked by Shulk

Doesn't Marq always fluff post at N1?

Then I'd have a cc wouldn't I

True tbh
I have to consider whether this is yours and baddies' spooky plan to gain cred or genuine stuff tbh

Back to Marq, doesn't she always fluff post at N1?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:00 AM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 10:48 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 11:45 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 09:43 AM)
vote Insaner
Always have a problem reading you so hoping I can get it done early this game tbh

How's you?!

Sup http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif

Yeah, I also felt bitter after that Skyrim loss and was really hoping to redeem myself here. As far as reading me goes, I don't know why everybody is always so wary of me http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif I always view myself as a pretty obvious town http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif

I think it is a dose of paranoia and that you have the potential to pull off out of the box strategies tbh

Are you wary of Phaze atm?

Yeah...kinda


Is it solely because of the gold star post or anything else? What do you make out of the block claim?

The gold star post, and the one before that, where he talked about me "shading" mo.

The block claim is what makes me doubt that read.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:04 AM
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:08 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:04 AM)
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

I don't know. What does it mean, mo?

If you told me that, I would be VERY pissed at you for narrowing it down.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:12 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:08 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:04 AM)
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

I don't know. What does it mean, mo?

If you told me that, I would be VERY pissed at you for narrowing it down.


Very well... I have you down as one of 3 roles.

BTW, my joke means that I'm juvenile, much the same as it meant in the other 2 gane.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:18 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:08 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:04 AM)
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

I don't know. What does it mean, mo?

If you told me that, I would be VERY pissed at you for narrowing it down.


Very well... I have you down as one of 3 roles.

BTW, my joke means that I'm juvenile, much the same as it meant in the other 2 gane.

Okay. I wonder what those could be http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

Posted by: Framm Mar 3 2018, 10:21 AM
Add my vote to SH at the moment to put some pressure on someone. Unfortunately that is all i have time for at the moment. Will talk more hopefully after work...

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 10:28 AM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:18 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:08 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:04 AM)
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

I don't know. What does it mean, mo?

If you told me that, I would be VERY pissed at you for narrowing it down.


Very well... I have you down as one of 3 roles.

BTW, my joke means that I'm juvenile, much the same as it meant in the other 2 gane.

Okay. I wonder what those could be http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif



You seriously wonder? Could you at least point wonder about 2 because you're sure about 1?

Did I tell you that I'm not wearing pockets?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 10:29 AM
Framm

I want to move my vote, so tell me this

Why were you afraid of araver?

Posted by: dee Mar 3 2018, 10:37 AM
Vote Marq

I always had a hard time reading her so better to put pressure, she might tell something.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 10:54 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 02:28 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:18 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:08 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:04 AM)
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

I don't know. What does it mean, mo?

If you told me that, I would be VERY pissed at you for narrowing it down.


Very well... I have you down as one of 3 roles.

BTW, my joke means that I'm juvenile, much the same as it meant in the other 2 gane.

Okay. I wonder what those could be http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif



You seriously wonder? Could you at least point wonder about 2 because you're sure about 1?

Did I tell you that I'm not wearing pockets?

I have no idea what you just said?

Inform a brotha.

Posted by: onetruth Mar 3 2018, 11:18 AM
I dunno why I thought N1 ended tonight. Going on a hike, and I'll vote when I get back.

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 12:55 PM
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 05:46 AM)
Well Phaze you COULD have been blocked by Shulk

Doesn't Marq always fluff post at N1?


Marq doesn't even post at all N1 half the time.

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 12:59 PM
I'm kind of at a loss because I have no idea where the fluff posts ended and the actual ones began, lol.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 01:02 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 08:54 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 02:28 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:18 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:08 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:04 AM)
So Insaner

What does my joke mean?

Also, what if I told you I have you down as one of 4 roles?

I don't know. What does it mean, mo?

If you told me that, I would be VERY pissed at you for narrowing it down.


Very well... I have you down as one of 3 roles.

BTW, my joke means that I'm juvenile, much the same as it meant in the other 2 gane.

Okay. I wonder what those could be http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif



You seriously wonder? Could you at least point wonder about 2 because you're sure about 1?

Did I tell you that I'm not wearing pockets?

I have no idea what you just said?

Inform a brotha.


Sorry... My phone autocorrects after I see the correct entry sometimes...

You wonder what 3 roles I have you down as, but shouldn't you know what 1 is? (yes, yours)

And I feel you're trying to pocket me

Posted by: Boquise Mar 3 2018, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 3 2018, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE (Boquise @ Mar 3 2018, 05:46 AM)
Well Phaze you COULD have been blocked by Shulk

Doesn't Marq always fluff post at N1?


Marq doesn't even post at all N1 half the time.

I had a revelation at the end of Skyrim Mafia. When Marq is goodie she gets angry when people talk about her not posting and not doing much. When she is baddie she let's those things pass and just hide/almost no post through the whole game.

Imo it is too early to determine that she is baddie atm. Fluff posts on N1 could come from either faction.



What do you think of my read on you?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 01:26 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 05:02 PM)

Sorry... My phone autocorrects after I see the correct entry sometimes...

You wonder what 3 roles I have you down as, but shouldn't you know what 1 is? (yes, yours)

And I feel you're trying to pocket me

If my role is among those three, then yes. But I have my doubts.

And I have no idea where you are getting that from.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 03:38 PM
What do I like less?

Framm ignoring me or Insaner and his... Aloofness

Since my vote is on Framm I'll leave it there, but I'd prefer it on Insaner.


Posted by: onetruth Mar 3 2018, 03:54 PM
Can someone post an updated roster por favor?

Posted by: Machina Mar 3 2018, 04:30 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Framm
2. DarthMask
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: Machina Mar 3 2018, 04:32 PM
If your vote isn't in red when you're voting without updating the rest of the roster, be aware you run the risk of me missing it.

If anyone's vote is missing here, speak up.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 04:53 PM
maurice give me a quote of me trying to pocket you.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 02:53 PM)
maurice give me a quote of me trying to pocket you.


Did I say I had one?

It's just a feel... You play me differently depending on our roles.

In this case I'm a goodie. You either don't know that or know I likely am depending on your role. The feel I have is the latter, based on previous games.

Hey I could be wrong http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif wouldn't be the first time... Probably like the third

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 05:19 PM
Framm

You should know be warned you are in the lead. Speak up or die.

Edit - that sounds better

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 05:45 PM
Insaner did you act last night? Maybe someone can vouch for you

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 09:45 PM)
Insaner did you act last night? Maybe someone can vouch for you

Would you like me to tell you my role as well?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 03:50 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 09:45 PM)
Insaner did you act last night? Maybe someone can vouch for you

Would you like me to tell you my role as well?


I told you I had it down to 4.

You don't need to tell me. It's one or the others.

Posted by: onetruth Mar 3 2018, 06:07 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Framm
2. DarthMask
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth - voting for Marq
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

This is not final necessarily, but I'd like to hear from marq.

Posted by: Framm Mar 3 2018, 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Framm @ Mar 3 2018, 09:21 AM)
Add my vote to SH at the moment to put some pressure on someone. Unfortunately that is all i have time for at the moment. Will talk more hopefully after work...


Just got off work... http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/dry.gif Unfortunately working at Kroger in the deli section doesn't lend a whole lot of time to checking the game at work...

He is a good player, of course I have some fear of him if he were a baddie. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif

Will try to do reads WHEN I GET HOME, sitting in parking lot doing a minor catchup.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (onetruth @ Mar 3 2018, 10:07 PM)
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Framm
2. DarthMask
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth - voting for Marq
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

This is not final necessarily, but I'd like to hear from marq.



Yeah, good luck with that http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/XD.gif

onetruth How did your hiking trip go?

I see you are voting Marq, is there something in particular that seemed unusual to you? What's your read on Phaze?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (Framm @ Mar 3 2018, 10:22 PM)
QUOTE (Framm @ Mar 3 2018, 09:21 AM)
Add my vote to SH at the moment to put some pressure on someone. Unfortunately that is all i have time for at the moment. Will talk more hopefully after work...


Just got off work... http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/dry.gif Unfortunately working at Kroger in the deli section doesn't lend a whole lot of time to checking the game at work...

He is a good player, of course I have some fear of him if he were a baddie. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif

Will try to do reads WHEN I GET HOME, sitting in parking lot doing a minor catchup.

I don't think you were asked about SH http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/scratch.gif

Posted by: Framm Mar 3 2018, 07:05 PM
I wasn't talking about SH... I, from what I saw had one question posed to me, and I answered that question...

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 3 2018, 07:10 PM
I actually didnt just post fluff...I acted last night and gained very little useful info.

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 3 2018, 07:10 PM
Nd there is a hint in them.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:14 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Boquise
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth - voting for Marq
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Edit - too many orangy colors

Not good Framm, but good enough. Let's see how baddies respond to the four votes on Insaner.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:19 PM
I'll make a claim here. Cuz all 5 would work...

I spied last night. Insaner had a chance to explain what I saw. He failed to do so.

Edit - put another way:
I faction spied Insaner as bad
Or
I beeped him with myself and araver, got a beep
Or
I saw him act on Phaze


Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 07:22 PM
Okay yeah that's actually something sufficient to vote on.

Vote:Insaner

Posted by: Machina Mar 3 2018, 07:28 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth - voting for Marq
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:19 PM)
I'll make a claim here.  Cuz all 5 would work...

I spied last night.  Insaner had a chance to explain what I saw.  He failed to do so.

Edit - put another way:
I faction spied Insaner as bad
Or
I beeped him with myself and araver, got a beep
Or
I saw him act on Phaze

Omg you might have at least told me you were going to do that

Jesus

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:19 PM)
I'll make a claim here.  Cuz all 5 would work...

I spied last night.  Insaner had a chance to explain what I saw.  He failed to do so.

Edit - put another way:
I faction spied Insaner as bad
Or
I beeped him with myself and araver, got a beep
Or
I saw him act on Phaze

Omg you might have at least told me you were going to do that

Jesus


I kinda did yo... I was like, hey I know who you are limited to, you should let me know.

So.... No contest?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:32 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:19 PM)
I'll make a claim here.  Cuz all 5 would work...

I spied last night.  Insaner had a chance to explain what I saw.  He failed to do so.

Edit - put another way:
I faction spied Insaner as bad
Or
I beeped him with myself and araver, got a beep
Or
I saw him act on Phaze

Omg you might have at least told me you were going to do that

Jesus


I kinda did yo... I was like, hey I know who you are limited to, you should let me know.

So.... No contest?

You didn't tell me you were going to out http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif

I am not Alvis and also not a baddie.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:38 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:32 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:19 PM)
I'll make a claim here.  Cuz all 5 would work...

I spied last night.  Insaner had a chance to explain what I saw.  He failed to do so.

Edit - put another way:
I faction spied Insaner as bad
Or
I beeped him with myself and araver, got a beep
Or
I saw him act on Phaze

Omg you might have at least told me you were going to do that

Jesus


I kinda did yo... I was like, hey I know who you are limited to, you should let me know.

So.... No contest?

You didn't tell me you were going to out http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif

I am not Alvis and also not a baddie.


So, you're claiming I'm one of two roles? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:40 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:38 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:32 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:19 PM)
I'll make a claim here.  Cuz all 5 would work...

I spied last night.  Insaner had a chance to explain what I saw.  He failed to do so.

Edit - put another way:
I faction spied Insaner as bad
Or
I beeped him with myself and araver, got a beep
Or
I saw him act on Phaze

Omg you might have at least told me you were going to do that

Jesus


I kinda did yo... I was like, hey I know who you are limited to, you should let me know.

So.... No contest?

You didn't tell me you were going to out http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/frantic.gif

I am not Alvis and also not a baddie.


So, you're claiming I'm one of two roles? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

I am unclaiming a role that I'm obviously not.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 3 2018, 07:43 PM
Ok, wow...this is what happens during weekends for me...dammit

Anyway, I've caught up now and I have a few questions...that said, I need to qualify some of those a bit more before I actually ask them.

Here is the primary question I have: Insaner, why are you panicking so hard? I'll be honest, I don't have much to go on in terms of your playstyle, but your characteristic arrogance from Skyrim mafia has been lacking since around page 5? Sorry bud, but just claiming town isn't going to cut it for me with the info from Mo (though I'm not sure that I trust said info...mo is good and did a good job of covering the bases when it comes to tells and that just fosters my already healthy suspicion of mo).

Please give me more to go on. I really, really want to take out a Zanza disciple today but with so many vote manips out there I don't trust leaving the votes close.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 3 2018, 07:46 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask - voting for Insaner
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth - voting for Marq
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:53 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 11:43 PM)
Ok, wow...this is what happens during weekends for me...dammit

Anyway, I've caught up now and I have a few questions...that said, I need to qualify some of those a bit more before I actually ask them.

Here is the primary question I have:  Insaner, why are you panicking so hard?  I'll be honest, I don't have much to go on in terms of your playstyle, but your characteristic arrogance from Skyrim mafia has been lacking since around page 5?  Sorry bud, but just claiming town isn't going to cut it for me with the info from Mo (though I'm not sure that I trust said info...mo is good and did a good job of covering the bases when it comes to tells and that just fosters my already healthy suspicion of mo).

Please give me more to go on.  I really, really want to take out a Zanza disciple today but with so many vote manips out there I don't trust leaving the votes close.

I am not panicking, I'm just irritated because maurice has narrowed his role a lot even though it could have been avoided.

Nothing I can tell. I already gave a bit of info by unclaiming Alvis. I suppose I might claim but it will just get me killed at night.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 3 2018, 07:55 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 11:43 PM)
Ok, wow...this is what happens during weekends for me...dammit

Anyway, I've caught up now and I have a few questions...that said, I need to qualify some of those a bit more before I actually ask them.

Here is the primary question I have:  Insaner, why are you panicking so hard?  I'll be honest, I don't have much to go on in terms of your playstyle, but your characteristic arrogance from Skyrim mafia has been lacking since around page 5?  Sorry bud, but just claiming town isn't going to cut it for me with the info from Mo (though I'm not sure that I trust said info...mo is good and did a good job of covering the bases when it comes to tells and that just fosters my already healthy suspicion of mo).

Please give me more to go on.  I really, really want to take out a Zanza disciple today but with so many vote manips out there I don't trust leaving the votes close.

I am not panicking, I'm just irritated because maurice has narrowed his role a lot even though it could have been avoided.

Nothing I can tell. I already gave a bit of info by unclaiming Alvis. I suppose I might claim but it will just get me killed at night.


Could have been avoided??

He literally narrowed his role to mark you out as suspicious based on info gained overnight! That's the definition of value. That smells of panic to me.

EDIT: To be fair, the info could be a flat-out lie AFAIK but I have to at least attempt to consider it based on the risk involve.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 07:56 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:53 PM)
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 11:43 PM)
Ok, wow...this is what happens during weekends for me...dammit

Anyway, I've caught up now and I have a few questions...that said, I need to qualify some of those a bit more before I actually ask them.

Here is the primary question I have:  Insaner, why are you panicking so hard?  I'll be honest, I don't have much to go on in terms of your playstyle, but your characteristic arrogance from Skyrim mafia has been lacking since around page 5?  Sorry bud, but just claiming town isn't going to cut it for me with the info from Mo (though I'm not sure that I trust said info...mo is good and did a good job of covering the bases when it comes to tells and that just fosters my already healthy suspicion of mo).

Please give me more to go on.  I really, really want to take out a Zanza disciple today but with so many vote manips out there I don't trust leaving the votes close.

I am not panicking, I'm just irritated because maurice has narrowed his role a lot even though it could have been avoided.

Nothing I can tell. I already gave a bit of info by unclaiming Alvis. I suppose I might claim but it will just get me killed at night.


I narrowed my role to one of five. I have not indicated one way or another what I think about your claim. To me it doesn't matter what you say at this point if I'm honest because you had a chance to claim. I made it pretty clear before I outed. My outing wasn't for your benefit it was to get you lynched

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:56 PM
maurice I thought I made it pretty clear during our conversation that I am not Alvis.

You were redirected last night.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 05:53 PM)
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 11:43 PM)
Ok, wow...this is what happens during weekends for me...dammit

Anyway, I've caught up now and I have a few questions...that said, I need to qualify some of those a bit more before I actually ask them.

Here is the primary question I have:  Insaner, why are you panicking so hard?  I'll be honest, I don't have much to go on in terms of your playstyle, but your characteristic arrogance from Skyrim mafia has been lacking since around page 5?  Sorry bud, but just claiming town isn't going to cut it for me with the info from Mo (though I'm not sure that I trust said info...mo is good and did a good job of covering the bases when it comes to tells and that just fosters my already healthy suspicion of mo).

Please give me more to go on.  I really, really want to take out a Zanza disciple today but with so many vote manips out there I don't trust leaving the votes close.

I am not panicking, I'm just irritated because maurice has narrowed his role a lot even though it could have been avoided.

Nothing I can tell. I already gave a bit of info by unclaiming Alvis. I suppose I might claim but it will just get me killed at night.


I narrowed my role to one of five. I have not indicated one way or another what I think about your claim. To me it doesn't matter what you say at this point if I'm honest because you had a chance to clean I made it pretty clear before I outed. My outing wasn't for your benefit it was to get you lynched

That's the thing, I would answer your question had you said you would out otherwise. I didn't want to narrow my own role so I didn't.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 3 2018, 07:59 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:56 PM)
maurice I thought I made it pretty clear during our conversation that I am not Alvis.

You were redirected last night.


Ok, this is more what I was looking for.

maurice (or anyone really...): any reasoning to counter this claim?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:01 PM
Maaaan

I just wanted to go to sleep

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 05:59 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:56 PM)
maurice I thought I made it pretty clear during our conversation that I am not Alvis.

You were redirected last night.


Ok, this is more what I was looking for.

maurice (or anyone really...): any reasoning to counter this claim?


How would you know this?

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:03 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:02 AM)
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 3 2018, 05:59 PM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:56 PM)
maurice I thought I made it pretty clear during our conversation that I am not Alvis.

You were redirected last night.


Ok, this is more what I was looking for.

maurice (or anyone really...): any reasoning to counter this claim?


How would you know this?

Because I didn't act on Phaze

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:06 PM
Any baddies want to speak up and claim they redirected me? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

I don't like that you say I had to announce to you I was willing to out before you spoke up. Should not have gotten to that point.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:07 PM
Also, I fibbed about having 3 votes so baddies feel free to try and save Insaner http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/yes.gif

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:06 AM)
Any baddies want to speak up and claim they redirected me? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

I don't like that you say I had to announce to you I was willing to out before you spoke up.  Should not have gotten to that point.

I never speak up unless necessary. It wouldn't hurt to let me know.

Posted by: onetruth Mar 3 2018, 08:13 PM
I never trust mo, but he is sounding pretty credible here. And after skyrim, I expect insaner to be very vocal (and not always correct). So... vote insaner. I'll probs be around for discussions.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:13 PM
I would be very much obliged if someone did come and saved me.

This game is killing my sleep schedule http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/cry.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:10 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:06 AM)
Any baddies want to speak up and claim they redirected me? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

I don't like that you say I had to announce to you I was willing to out before you spoke up.  Should not have gotten to that point.

I never speak up unless necessary. It wouldn't hurt to let me know.


But I did. I don't see the point in this discussion. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sadwave.gif

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (onetruth @ Mar 4 2018, 12:13 AM)
I never trust mo, but he is sounding pretty credible here. And after skyrim, I expect insaner to be very vocal (and not always correct). So... vote insaner. I'll probs be around for discussions.

Maurice isn't lying but he isn't correct either

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:18 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:15 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:10 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:06 AM)
Any baddies want to speak up and claim they redirected me? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

I don't like that you say I had to announce to you I was willing to out before you spoke up.  Should not have gotten to that point.

I never speak up unless necessary. It wouldn't hurt to let me know.


But I did. I don't see the point in this discussion. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sadwave.gif

No, you just said that you had me narrowed down you never said you would actually out.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:19 PM
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 3 2018, 08:32 PM
My vote goes to Insaner...for a noticeable dinging of my BS-O-METER

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice

Posted by: Machina Mar 3 2018, 08:36 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask - voting for Insaner
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa - voting for Insaner
7. onetruth - voting for Insaner
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Maurice

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:44 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice


But yet when I asked you said nothing

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 08:48 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice


But yet when I asked you said nothing

Because I didn't think you were actually going to out. I thought, alright, you had me as one of 4 roles, not too long till I get cleared http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thumbsup.gif

Do you want me to claim my role right now? I don't see what else I can do.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice


And why vote me?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice


But yet when I asked you said nothing

Because I didn't think you were actually going to out. I thought, alright, you had me as one of 4 roles, not too long till I get cleared http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thumbsup.gif

Do you want me to claim my role right now? I don't see what else I can do.


That's not at all what you projected. It was nah you don't. And 3 of those roles were bad.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:57 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice


And why vote me?

You asked me to vote for a teammate

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:59 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:34 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 06:19 PM)
maurice anybody you want me to vote before I leave?


Vote for your teammate.

But again, why should I have to threaten to out for you to respond to me. You're saying two different things here. That you would have given me something had I threatened to out, but that I was redirected. Then what could you have given me?

I would tell you that I acted which is what you were asking me.

vote maurice


But yet when I asked you said nothing

Because I didn't think you were actually going to out. I thought, alright, you had me as one of 4 roles, not too long till I get cleared http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thumbsup.gif

Do you want me to claim my role right now? I don't see what else I can do.


That's not at all what you projected. It was nah you don't. And 3 of those roles were bad.

NO

I said "nah you don't" when you said you had me down to 3 because it didn't make sense to me. I didn't say that about 4.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 09:03 PM
I am open to the possibility that I was redirected. I've always been open to that heck I'm the bullseye champion. But again it was me trying to help you help me and you dismissing and not wanting to help and the way you've otherwise played the game that leads me to believe you are bad. Well along with my results.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:03 AM)
I am open to the possibility that I was redirected. I've always been open to that heck I'm the bullseye champion. But again it was me trying to help you help me and you dismissing and not wanting to help and the way you've otherwise played the game that leads me to believe you are bad. Well along with my results.

I didn't want to narrow my role. I can't see anything wrong with that.

Do I out now?

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 09:11 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:03 AM)
I am open to the possibility that I was redirected. I've always been open to that heck I'm the bullseye champion. But again it was me trying to help you help me and you dismissing and not wanting to help and the way you've otherwise played the game that leads me to believe you are bad. Well along with my results.

I didn't want to narrow my role. I can't see anything wrong with that.

Do I out now?


To a spy? You could have outed in a way only I got it.



Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:03 AM)
I am open to the possibility that I was redirected. I've always been open to that heck I'm the bullseye champion. But again it was me trying to help you help me and you dismissing and not wanting to help and the way you've otherwise played the game that leads me to believe you are bad. Well along with my results.

I didn't want to narrow my role. I can't see anything wrong with that.

Do I out now?


To a spy? You could have outed in a way only I got it.

AND I WOULD HAVE

Had only you been more insistant

I have no info to out besides my role.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 09:24 PM
Well. Nothing else I can do. I'm sure you get it by now. Sucks that I'm gonna have to die so early, but I guess it's my fault http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif

Good luck.

vote SH

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:03 AM)
I am open to the possibility that I was redirected. I've always been open to that heck I'm the bullseye champion. But again it was me trying to help you help me and you dismissing and not wanting to help and the way you've otherwise played the game that leads me to believe you are bad. Well along with my results.

I didn't want to narrow my role. I can't see anything wrong with that.

Do I out now?


To a spy? You could have outed in a way only I got it.

AND I WOULD HAVE

Had only you been more insistant

I have no info to out besides my role.


OK. That isn't being a very town player.

My heart does want to believe you.

But my head says, you killed araver, and so in his honor I'll go by Occams Razor. If it's wrong, we'll I blame you more than Occam.

Posted by: Insaner Mar 3 2018, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:25 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (Insaner @ Mar 3 2018, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 01:03 AM)
I am open to the possibility that I was redirected. I've always been open to that heck I'm the bullseye champion. But again it was me trying to help you help me and you dismissing and not wanting to help and the way you've otherwise played the game that leads me to believe you are bad. Well along with my results.

I didn't want to narrow my role. I can't see anything wrong with that.

Do I out now?


To a spy? You could have outed in a way only I got it.

AND I WOULD HAVE

Had only you been more insistant

I have no info to out besides my role.


OK. That isn't being a very town player.

My heart does want to believe you.

But my head says, you killed araver, and so in his honor I'll go by Occams Razor. If it's wrong, we'll I blame you more than Occam.

Keeping information about my role isn't being a town player? Saying whether I acted or not would narrow me down to baddies so NATURALLY I was reluctant to do so. I didn't know it was THAT important to you.

Posted by: Machina Mar 3 2018, 09:45 PM
Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask - voting for Insaner
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa - voting for Insaner
7. onetruth - voting for Insaner
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Hirkala
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: sparrowhawk Mar 3 2018, 10:32 PM
I meant to be more active today, but I got distracted. I had wanted to hear from Hirkala, but that doesn't seem to be happening. At this point I hope mo's intel is good since I don't see anyone else getting lynched beside insaner. It's curious he chose me over Marq since he knows one of the marq votes isn't changing. Framm's vote could possibly be moved.

Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask - voting for Insaner
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa - voting for Insaner
7. onetruth - voting for Insaner
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Insaner
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1

Posted by: dee Mar 3 2018, 10:47 PM
Vote Insaner

Mo put a hard info there.

Posted by: maurice Mar 3 2018, 11:03 PM
QUOTE (sparrowhawk @ Mar 3 2018, 08:32 PM)
I meant to be more active today, but I got distracted. I had wanted to hear from Hirkala, but that doesn't seem to be happening. At this point I hope mo's intel is good since I don't see anyone else getting lynched beside insaner. It's curious he chose me over Marq since he knows one of the marq votes isn't changing. Framm's vote could possibly be moved.

Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask - voting for Insaner
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa - voting for Insaner
7. onetruth - voting for Insaner
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Insaner
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1



Good point. Makes me think Framm is good and dee isn't. Like hey we got a goodie voting sh, we can add more baddie votes to it, where voting Marq couldn't. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif

Posted by: Machina Mar 3 2018, 11:22 PM
D1: The Traitor



As the day following the vicious Telethia attack dragged on, the leaders of the various races inhabiting Bionis spent hours and hours debating on how to best proceed.
But one member of the council was absent...

Right as the meeting drew to a close, the man responsible for uniting them all finally arrived, only to met by hostile glares from his so-called "allies."
Dickson was no fool. They must have finally seen through his ruse.
But as he spun around and attempted to run away, he found his path blocked by a man he knew all too well.

"Dickson! How could you!?"

Dunban hadn't wanted to believe it. But as Dickson attempted to pull his weapon on his former comrade, the hero of Sword Valley knew what had to be done.



Insaner was lynched and revealed to be Dickson


Host: Machina
1. maurice
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
8. Boquise
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk
11. Phaze
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson

N2 ends at 10pm March 4th.

Posted by: Hachi Mar 3 2018, 11:27 PM
Good job Mo.
http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/clap.gif

Posted by: dee Mar 3 2018, 11:42 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 06:03 AM)
QUOTE (sparrowhawk @ Mar 3 2018, 08:32 PM)
I meant to be more active today, but I got distracted. I had wanted to hear from Hirkala, but that doesn't seem to be happening. At this point I hope mo's intel is good since I don't see anyone else getting lynched beside insaner. It's curious he chose me over Marq since he knows one of the marq votes isn't changing. Framm's vote could possibly be moved.

Host: Machina
1. maurice - voting for Insaner
2. DarthMask - voting for Insaner
3. Framm - voting for Sparrowhawk
4. Hachi - voting for Insaner
6. Marquessa - voting for Insaner
7. onetruth - voting for Insaner
8. Boquise - voting for Insaner
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for Insaner
11. Phaze* - voting for Marq (Final)
12. dee - voting for Marq
13. Insaner - voting for Sparrowhawk

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed by Zanza's Disciples N1



Good point. Makes me think Framm is good and dee isn't. Like hey we got a goodie voting sh, we can add more baddie votes to it, where voting Marq couldn't. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif


I actually read your last sentence a lot, so I can understand more. No problem for me if you think I'm not good. The night is long and I can defend myself when day comes

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 12:13 AM
Well now the WIFoM begins...

I expect to be a target... Maybe they expect me to be saved, idk.

I thought I'd be blocked, but http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/nope.gif

I'll likely be redirected then?

Let's just propose I be saved and let the baddies go from there.

Luckily, they have no way of knowing which spy I am. Insaner tried to pull into but I didn't give it.


Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 12:55 AM
*maurice asks Machina if the boosted zanza kill can be stopped via save

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 3 2018, 11:55 PM)
*maurice asks Machina if the boosted zanza kill can be stopped via save


Zanza's kill boost cannot be stopped by any means, saves included.
Nor can it be blocked.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 02:17 AM
I guess I'm goners http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sadwave.gif

I'll see if I can get into from the day before I die.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 02:28 AM
Or baddies can save the odtg kill until they narrow down egil http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/yes.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 04:19 AM
People I wish I could question D2...

Dee - why did Insaner vote SH and not Marq. I think to set up Dee moving her vote later if he could get someone else to vote sh
Hirk - where were you?
Boq - could have been a safe, distance vote. His vote was the only one on Insaner when I outed and I think he was asleep.
Framm - I never got satisfactory answers.

Posted by: dee Mar 4 2018, 04:48 AM
maurice I have no idea why Insaner voted SH and not Marq. Most probably just to confuse us. You forgot, I have different tz, my vote will not change if I hadn't woke up because I needed to go to bathroom. When I was around you guys talk about different stuff too and I could not relate so I let it go. You revealed late. Lucky for other who are around at that time.

Posted by: Boquise Mar 4 2018, 05:03 AM
well that was interesting tbh

Mah early D1 reads be good mate I promise http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/cool.gif

and Dee it is good to out late because now we saw who voted who when there was no info.



And yeah I was asleep. Got busy so my activity level took a plummel

Posted by: dee Mar 4 2018, 06:05 AM
http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

Posted by: Boquise Mar 4 2018, 06:20 AM
QUOTE (dee @ Mar 4 2018, 11:05 AM)
http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

if mo had outed earlier we would, for an example, not seen the sudden movement on Marq. I think Marq is goodie because of that.

Giving out spy information makes people naturally want to vote with the outed spy, regardless of their faction. Thus baddies become more difficult to see because they are hiding behind the status quo.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 09:55 AM
Oh... I didnt expect answers during the night but ok... I actually suspect you two more http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lmao.gif

Just seems like defensiveness to me but whatever. I'm not here to argue. I especially can't argue against the timezone defense http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/rolleyes.gif just saying voting Insaner early seemed safe... And as Boquise pointed out there were some benefits to outting late.

Hopefully baddies or spies hit egil tonight. That's who I'm looking for.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (dee @ Mar 4 2018, 08:48 PM)
maurice I have no idea why Insaner voted SH and not Marq. Most probably just to confuse us. You forgot, I have different tz, my vote will not change if I hadn't woke up because I needed to go to bathroom. When I was around you guys talk about different stuff too and I could not relate so I let it go. You revealed late. Lucky for other who are around at that time.

A case could be made that they were trying to save Marq.
A case could be made that they knew Insaner was going down so we're trying to clear SH

There may be other reasoning but at the moment I have limited imagination.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 01:51 PM
* double post *

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 03:06 PM
So how's Amageddon going for eveyone?

PS a save about now would be nice

Posted by: dee Mar 4 2018, 03:54 PM
http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

Posted by: Hirkala Mar 4 2018, 04:06 PM
Well, crap... I thought N1 ended on the 3rd... My bad. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sad.gif

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 04:16 PM
QUOTE (Hirkala @ Mar 4 2018, 02:06 PM)
Well, crap...  I thought N1 ended on the 3rd...  My bad.  http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sad.gif

Yeah the post was edited to say it would end on the 2nd and I think the clock said the 2nd but the host of said the 3rd so it was a little confusing.

Posted by: Hirkala Mar 4 2018, 04:23 PM
Machina Will Zanza's boost show up in the post when used?

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 04:34 PM
QUOTE (Hirkala @ Mar 4 2018, 03:23 PM)
Machina Will Zanza's boost show up in the post when used?


Yes, the kill will be credited as boosted by Zanza, both in flavor and in the list of results.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 04:54 PM
maurice If you think you may be on your way out tonight could you give us a list of reads?

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 05:00 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 02:54 PM)
maurice If you think you may be on your way out tonight could you give  us a list of reads?


I shall before the night ends

Don't want to influence kills...

Edit - from before I die... Maybe I don't

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 05:05 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 09:00 AM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 02:54 PM)
maurice If you think you may be on your way out tonight could you give  us a list of reads?


I shall before the night ends

Don't want to influence kills...

Edit - from before I die... Maybe I don't

Why do you think I'm asking?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 06:38 PM
Can anyone verify that they are in communication with Alvis?

Posted by: Hachi Mar 4 2018, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 05:38 PM)
Can anyone verify that they are in communication with Alvis?


I doubt Alvis would set up BTSC at night one but that's just me?

Posted by: Hachi Mar 4 2018, 09:11 PM
Unless the btsc happens immediately when used.

Does it?

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 09:12 PM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 08:11 PM)
Unless the btsc happens immediately when used.

Does it?



No. It's updated at the end of the night phase.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 07:10 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 05:38 PM)
Can anyone verify that they are in communication with Alvis?


I doubt Alvis would set up BTSC at night one but that's just me?


So you're saying there's a chance?

Oh... No point in targeting me http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/cry.gif

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 10:54 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 06:38 PM)
Can anyone verify that they are in communication with Alvis?


I can verify that I am definitely not...can't say much more as I got no info from N1. Here's hoping tonight.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 10:55 PM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 5 2018, 01:10 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 05:38 PM)
Can anyone verify that they are in communication with Alvis?


I doubt Alvis would set up BTSC at night one but that's just me?

I would of (or have http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/devil.gif ) but I'm pretty sure that is just me

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:00 PM
Don't know why my reads are so important but here goes...

1. maurice - good af
2. DarthMask - seems good
3. Framm - I have a Indy vibe
4. Hachi - unsure but leaning good
6. Marquessa - seems confident, like goodie marq
7. onetruth - something Insaner said... About her hike. Where was the rest of that conversation?
9. Hirkala - hard to say. I'd lean indy
10. sparrowhawk - the votes tell me bad. Plus I could see him killing araver
11. Phaze - goodish
12. dee - badish
Spoiler for AND FINALLY

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:10 PM
I agree with most of those reads with a couple exceptions:

SH I actually have a goodie read on. Not strong but definitely there.
Hirk is not active enough for me to have a real read on, but the lean for me is actually baddie. Why you ask? Baddie activity seems a bit off compared to thread chat. The imbalance is hard to justify.
I have no read one way or another on dee yet. Curious about your reasoning on that one.

Neither is particularly strong, but that is what I have.

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 11:14 PM
N2: Mechon Menace


As night fell, Fiora found herself standing alone, overlooking Colony 6 as people retreated to their newly-built homes, and the moon slowly rose to its apex in the night sky.
But then she caught a sudden movement out of the corner of her eye. Without time to think as Sparrowhawk rushed towards her, she drew her blades and moved to strike...
But the ensuing clash ended without a victor, for despite Fiora's ferocity, her opponent ultimately escaped.

Once more, a swarm of Zanza's Telethia descended upon the colony. While the colony's new defense force managed to shoot down a number of them, several broke through and descended upon Hachi.
As the dust cleared, the beasts were lying on the ground, unmoving, while Hachi was not.

As if all of the earlier commotion wasn't enough, the Mechon had also finally arrived. The ensuing battle between Homs and machine was a fierce one, and while the battered heroes and soldiers eventually managed to beat them back, it was not without casualties. Boquise had fallen.


Fiora failed to kill Sparrowhawk
Zanza's Disciples failed to kill Hachi
Egil killed Boquise


Host: Machina
1. maurice
2. DarthMask
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk
11. Phaze
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:16 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 4 2018, 09:10 PM)
I agree with most of those reads with a couple exceptions:

SH I actually have a goodie read on.  Not strong but definitely there.
Hirk is not active enough for me to have a real read on, but the lean for me is actually baddie.  Why you ask?  Baddie activity seems a bit off compared to thread chat.  The imbalance is hard to justify.
I have no read one way or another on dee yet.  Curious about your reasoning on that one.

Neither is particularly strong, but that is what I have.


I gave my explanation on dee at the end of the day. Why Insaner voted sparrowhawk and not Marq I took as leaving an opening for a baddie to move their vote... But I think it's more likely now it was used to clear sparrowhawk

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 11:16 PM
D2 ends March 5th, 10pm EST.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:19 PM
Right on sparrowhawk, right on boq, wrong on Hachi.

Hachi has to go.

I vote Hachi

Do we want to trust baddies to kill Hachi? Let's just work together and kill him now.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:25 PM
Well...damn...

Mo being alive means either the best bus-job I've ever seen or the baddies decided that they didn't want to spend their boost kill tonight. This would also indicate that Boq was good (assuming it wasn't just a shot in the dark...). Unless we can get confirmation that someone actually saved Hachi this actually smells of indy immunity to me...I did not gain any info that would correlate that last night. It is just a read, take it with a grain of salt http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shrug.gif

Am I missing any other pertinent info from the NP?

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:28 PM
No Mo, I still disagree on SH. My info gained (indirectly) at night pseudo-confirms my suspicions (which were not made public until after the NP ended so the likelihood I was redirected is almost nil) that he is being framed hard.

However on Hachi I agree unless someone comes forward with more info.

vote Hachi

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:29 PM
That boost has value to kill egil. Not me. Hopefully I was redirected.

If you think Hachi was a valid save target, ok. I just see Occams Razor pointing to Egil.


Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 4 2018, 09:28 PM)
No Mo, I still disagree on SH.  My info gained (indirectly) at night pseudo-confirms my suspicions (which were not made public until after the NP ended so the likelihood I was redirected is almost nil) that he is being framed hard.

However on Hachi I agree unless someone comes forward with more info.

vote Hachi


You think sh was saved?

Edit - post 7000

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:31 PM
Either way, Hachi http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/sadwave.gif

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 11:35 PM
^&@! There goes our follow spy

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:35 PM
I do not think SH was saved (it would have shown up in the NP if it was) also I don't think the baddies want to kill him, they are trying to use him as a scapegoat for N3 goodie killer so targeting him for any (non-RID kill) action would defeat that purpose. Am I pocketing? Possibly, but I'm pretty sure on this.

I also agree on the Hachi thing. That whole thing just smells SO indy to me. I can't see why any goodie would use a save on Hachi tonight but I don't want to count it out...wait...actually...

Machina would Dunban's ability to delay death show in the NP (and if so, would it show as just a failed kill or would it RID him)?

That is literally the only other possibility that I can come up with.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:36 PM
Saves do not show up in the NP.

How about he is Zanza????

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (Machina @ Mar 1 2018, 02:40 AM)

What shows in the night post:
-Successful kills (Including the killing role responsible, and the type of kill)
-Unsuccessful kills (including those thwarted by a save, but not RID kills with incorrect RID guesses. What prevented the kill is NOT shown)


Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 09:35 PM)
^&@! There goes our follow spy



Here is another post I don't like. What is the point of this? Seems like you're fishing. Same as your Alvis post. I just don't get the township of this.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 11:36 PM)
Saves do not show up in the NP.

How about he is Zanza????


That would be a possibility...Occam's Razor says otherwise though.

EDIT: (in response to ninja post) noted. I am unsure about veracity but it does have merit.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 4 2018, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE (Machina @ Mar 1 2018, 02:40 AM)

What shows in the night post:
-Successful kills (Including the killing role responsible, and the type of kill)
-Unsuccessful kills (including those thwarted by a save, but not RID kills with incorrect RID guesses. What prevented the kill is NOT shown)



Like I said, saves do not show up.

Also what are you saying about sh. Fiora tried to kill him. Unless he was saved he is Zanza. If he is going to die at the end of the day, it's moot anyway.

Baddies are trying to frame him how?

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 4 2018, 11:44 PM
I'll be honest, I actually missed the fiora targeting SH for a kill...I was too focused on my own info.

Let me recalc my thoughts on whether or not I was redirected before I give any further info. I am still leaning goodie but that does change the weights.

EDIT: Going to bed now. I'll be back in the morning from work and I'll update my opinions on the SH issue then. Beyond that I am still of the opinion that Hachi should be the lynch target (just in case something happens and I can't make it back...)

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 4 2018, 10:35 PM)
I do not think SH was saved (it would have shown up in the NP if it was) also I don't think the baddies want to kill him, they are trying to use him as a scapegoat for N3 goodie killer so targeting him for any (non-RID kill) action would defeat that purpose.  Am I pocketing?  Possibly, but I'm pretty sure on this.

I also agree on the Hachi thing.  That whole thing just smells SO indy to me.  I can't see why any goodie would use a save on Hachi tonight but I don't want to count it out...wait...actually...

Machina would Dunban's ability to delay death show in the NP (and if so, would it show as just a failed kill or would it RID him)?

That is literally the only other possibility that I can come up with.


No. If Dunban is attacked at night and not saved, he will die at the end of the lynch following when he was attacked.

EDIT: I worded that poorly, apologies.

Yes it will show if Dunban survives the nightkill. No it will not ID him. (However, he is IDed when he does actually die at the end of the following day.)

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 4 2018, 09:40 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 11:36 PM)
Saves do not show up in the NP.

How about he is Zanza????


That would be a possibility...Occam's Razor says otherwise though.

EDIT: (in response to ninja post) noted. I am unsure about veracity but it does have merit.

Occams Razor says he's not Zanza???

I won't press then. I assume there is info I do not have. Because the NP says he's Zanza or was saved.

Posted by: maurice Mar 4 2018, 11:50 PM
Ok. That makes sense and what I thought maybe was going on.

Posted by: Machina Mar 4 2018, 11:50 PM
DarthMask I worded that poorly, apologies.

Yes it will show if Dunban survives the nightkill. No it will not ID him. (However, he is IDed when he does actually die at the end of the following day.)

Posted by: Phaze Mar 4 2018, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 03:38 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 09:35 PM)
^&@! There goes our follow spy



Here is another post I don't like. What is the point of this? Seems like you're fishing. Same as your Alvis post. I just don't get the township of this.

No role x3 for anyone to hide under

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 09:57 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 03:38 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 09:35 PM)
^&@! There goes our follow spy



Here is another post I don't like. What is the point of this? Seems like you're fishing. Same as your Alvis post. I just don't get the township of this.

No role x3 for anyone to hide under


I still don't know what you're getting at?

Why do you think Boq was a follow spy? If he were and someone else can't claim one of those 3 roles was your $&%! sarcastic then?

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:02 AM
BTW Phaze I actually had him as another role based on the 3 and the quotes. Pretty sure the one of three role is still kicking.

Posted by: Machina Mar 5 2018, 12:04 AM
1. maurice - voting for Hachi
2. DarthMask - voting for Hachi
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk
11. Phaze
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: Hachi Mar 5 2018, 12:04 AM
At work but I'll go ahead and clarify. I'm Dunban

Posted by: Hachi Mar 5 2018, 12:07 AM
This is why I voted Boq D1. I got mad at what I thought were softclaims.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:09 AM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 10:04 PM)
At work but I'll go ahead and clarify. I'm Dunban


So you're ok with being lynched?

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:11 AM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 10:07 PM)
This is why I voted Boq D1. I got mad at what I thought were softclaims.


Makes sense. Also explains why you would try to kill him. If you kill a baddie and we lynch the rid one you get control of the kills.

Don't know why you felt a need to explain your vote on Boquise, but you should know it solidifies the thought you're Egil.

Posted by: Hachi Mar 5 2018, 12:12 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 10:04 PM)
At work but I'll go ahead and clarify. I'm Dunban


So you're ok with being lynched?


If you feel it's the best way. I won't object. It's a waste of a lynch since I'll be revealed anyway. If I live then it's obvious who I am and I'll die anyway next lynch. Buying time won't really save me especially since pierce kill is still out there.

Posted by: Hachi Mar 5 2018, 12:17 AM
The born in a world of strife/against the we choose to fight line is a clear refrence to Dunban if you did not know. It's part of his signature move blossom dance.

Posted by: Hachi Mar 5 2018, 12:18 AM
Anyway back to work

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:18 AM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 10:12 PM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 10:04 PM)
At work but I'll go ahead and clarify. I'm Dunban


So you're ok with being lynched?


If you feel it's the best way. I won't object. It's a waste of a lynch since I'll be revealed anyway. If I live then it's obvious who I am and I'll die anyway next lynch. Buying time won't really save me especially since pierce kill is still out there.


Can't argue that logic.

OK. I guess we could lynch sh and get rid of the boost kill.


Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:22 AM
QUOTE (Hachi @ Mar 4 2018, 10:17 PM)
The born in a world of strife/against the we choose to fight line is a clear refrence to Dunban if you did not know. It's part of his signature move blossom dance.


Yes, not hard to figure out. I know nothing about the band but Google revealed much. I agree his "hints" were blatant and everywhere. This is why I trusted him. Baddie boq would not have been so careless. I threw him in the list of suspects hoping he'd live.

I guess he could be baddie. Only you Egil would know.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:23 AM
1. maurice - voting for sparrowhawk
2. DarthMask - voting for Hachi
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk
11. Phaze
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: sparrowhawk Mar 5 2018, 12:58 AM
There are multiple save mechanisms out there. Zanza's not the only option. I can't disprove the possibility, but right now there's a lot of attempted team killing going on. I'm not sure where to put my vote. I don't see anything bad about Hirkala, but I could be wrong. I'm willing to follow a hunch on dee, if you still doubt her, maurice.

1. maurice - voting for sparrowhawk
2. DarthMask - voting for Hachi
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 01:24 AM
1. maurice - voting for sparrowhawk
2. DarthMask - voting for Hachi
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Plenty of time to explain those save mechanisms SH. If any of them were in force surely someone would speak up for you.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 01:43 AM
Anyone think sparrowhawk was a kill option for baddies?


Posted by: sparrowhawk Mar 5 2018, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 09:24 PM)
Plenty of time to explain those save mechanisms SH. If any of them were in force surely someone would speak up for you.

I don't know exactly what DarthMask was getting at, but he was vouching for me. Anyone goodie-reading him, I hope can take his words to goodie-read me.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 02:01 AM
QUOTE (sparrowhawk @ Mar 4 2018, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 4 2018, 09:24 PM)
Plenty of time to explain those save mechanisms SH. If any of them were in force surely someone would speak up for you.

I don't know exactly what DarthMask was getting at, but he was vouching for me. Anyone goodie-reading him, I hope can take his words to goodie-read me.



Except this... He didn't realize an attempt on your life failed. He took a step back...

Now... Couldn't he have gotten a false negative. Isn't that in line with you being Zanza?


Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 02:02 AM
Ok sparrowhawk I'll give you a chance...

Reads?

Posted by: sparrowhawk Mar 5 2018, 02:29 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 4 2018, 10:02 PM)
Ok sparrowhawk I'll give you a chance...

Reads?

OK, I don't have much to work with, but here's how I see it.

mo: goodie-goodie
DarthMask: He might be pocketing me, but I trust him.
Framm: Seems indyish to me. He evaded the pressure you put on him. It seems like goodie framm might have said more in his defense instead of waiting for you to turn on someone else (Insaner is this case).
Hachi: Could be indy, but we'll find out one way or the other at the end of the day.
Marquessa: Haven't seen much from her yet, but nothing stands out as baddie to me.
onetruth: Kind of a null as she wasn't around much for the day.
Boquise: Pretty much as to be goodie at this point.
Hirkala: Also largely a null, though I don't see him as bad currently.
sparrowhawk: goodie who is lucky (to be alive) and unlucky (to seem like a baddie).
Phaze: Baddieish. I always have a hard time reading Phaze as he tries to be inscrutable, no matter what his role is. His attempts to fish for roles does seem a little dodgy.
dee: Not a lot to work with here, but largely by process of elimination, she's feeling baddieish.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 02:30 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 05:43 PM)
Anyone think sparrowhawk was a kill option for baddies?

No

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 02:48 AM
maurice I suspect you were redirected last night

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 02:52 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 12:48 AM)
maurice I suspect you were redirected last night


I expected to be.

What do you base your suspicion on?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:14 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 06:52 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 12:48 AM)
maurice I suspect you were redirected last night


I expected to be.

What do you base your suspicion on?

It being highly likely that if they didn't select to kill you they would do something else
The way you came at me at daybreak
SHs assessment of me (kinda as if he was looking for your cue)
And one other reason which I'd rather not go into

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 03:30 AM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 01:14 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 06:52 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 12:48 AM)
maurice I suspect you were redirected last night


I expected to be.

What do you base your suspicion on?

It being highly likely that if they didn't select to kill you they would do something else
The way you came at me at daybreak
SHs assessment of me (kinda as if he was looking for your cue)
And one other reason which I'd rather not go into


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/biggrin.gif

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 04:32 AM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 07:30 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 01:14 AM)
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 06:52 PM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 12:48 AM)
maurice I suspect you were redirected last night


I expected to be.

What do you base your suspicion on?

It being highly likely that if they didn't select to kill you they would do something else
The way you came at me at daybreak
SHs assessment of me (kinda as if he was looking for your cue)
And one other reason which I'd rather not go into


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/biggrin.gif


Probably best to wait till the end of the day before you come clean.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 08:29 AM
Alright, I'm back after sleep and I'm still going to sit hard on my position that I don't think SH is bad. Given the fact that mo was almost certainly the redirect target and there are no other ways to falsify my info gained at night (indirect as it was) I am, if not certain, next best thing that SH is good. Just so you know Mo what I just said probably tells the baddies exactly who I am so I do not expect to live through N3 unless saved...hopefully it is enough for you to realize as well. Simply put, there is another explanation besides Zanza for him being alive today and I think you might be missing it due to simplicity.

Also, I was a bit tired last night and forgot that Egil can't kill N3 so there really is no penalty to letting him sit through this lynch (unless Boq really was bad...but his tells were pretty straight and learning if Hachi was Dunban will only leave one non-baddie possibility). I'll post an updated roster next post.

I'm still looking sideways at Phaze...mostly for reasons I'd rather not come out and just say but all in all his posts today are leaning bad to me. Didn't have a solid read before though so I'm willing to give some more time before I start calling for pressure on him.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 08:32 AM
1. maurice - voting for sparrowhawk
2. DarthMask - voting for onetruth
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

This is a pressure vote. TBH I don't expect to get much from it, but I want more info just in case Hachi's Dunban claim proves valid.

onetruth : did you gain any information last night, anything at all? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/suspicious.gif

EDIT: removed quote tags

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 09:19 AM
DarthMask I can get behind a onetruth vote. I'd like to know if she told Insaner she was going hiking in btsc.

If you have certainty that baddies know your role, why are you keeping at least the info from us?

I'll at least go back and consider other possibilities so don't out just yet.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 09:21 AM
By the way I goofed. I figured I'd be dead or redirected so didn't put in an action. I didnt consider living and not knowing if the redirect was on me or not. Sorry team.

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 09:30 AM
I can't blame you. In all probability you were redirected so the info would have been worthless in any case. I can't think of any other reason for the baddies to not at least try to kill you now that they lost their block.

If it gets to be later in the day and nothing has changed I will straight-up the info. (Potentially devastating move capable of swinging the game pretty hard in a world with RID kills. I want to be absolutely sure before I say anything more.)

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 10:11 AM
1. maurice - voting for onetruth
2. DarthMask - voting for onetruth
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Something still doesn't follow DM... I mean... Ok Nevermind. Might be next level stuff.

Posted by: onetruth Mar 5 2018, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (onetruth @ Mar 3 2018, 11:18 AM)
I dunno why I thought N1 ended tonight. Going on a hike, and I'll vote when I get back.



@Mo, I didn't catch insaner asking about my hike, but I posted about it.

QUOTE
onetruth : did you gain any information last night, anything at all? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/suspicious.gif


@DM, Nothing I'd stand behind at the moment. I'm trying to read through the thread, but MM is ridiculously being laggy, so it's taking me a while (plus...work). Instinct is telling me to lynch SH, but other instinct is telling me to trust you.



@Fiora, y u use kill so early in the game? It's possible you were redirected and meant to try to kill someone else, but why for? Unless you know for sure someone is a baddie/Egil, maybe lay low and save the kills for a more certain target.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 12:07 PM
Indeed you did. Well poo.

And I'm pretty sure Fiora tried to kill SH.

Thing is he's been goodie killed as a goodie a few times and by some pretty decent players http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif

I have one more play and then I guess I'd support a Hachi lynch.

*maurice votes Hirkala

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif

Posted by: Machina Mar 5 2018, 12:26 PM
1. maurice - voting for Hirkala
2. DarthMask - voting for onetruth
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 01:09 PM
Machina : if a person who voluntarily forgoes their night action is redirected will they be forced to act?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 01:57 PM
DarthMask Sorry I'm not buying it. You have pretty much locked yourself into claiming a particular role. Unfortunately I have seen something that suggests someone else is that role

Posted by: Machina Mar 5 2018, 02:18 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 5 2018, 12:09 PM)
Machina : if a person who voluntarily forgoes their night action is redirected will they be forced to act?


If a person does not act, they cannot be redirected.

Posted by: dee Mar 5 2018, 02:28 PM
I get confused to DM. It seems he vouch fo SH first then notice was targetted by Fiora then he backpedal and then again he is vouching for SH. Phaze not buying DM http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hm.gif

onetruth, i hope the baddies didn't redirect Fiora or that will give them a chance of rids target.

that's a pretty hard claim in Hachi.

Vote Framm
Want to hear from him more. Just voting base on instinct.

Posted by: Marquessa Mar 5 2018, 02:47 PM
My vote is between Dee and Mo...so Mo whats UP?

Posted by: Machina Mar 5 2018, 02:49 PM
1. maurice - voting for Hirkala
2. DarthMask - voting for onetruth
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee - voting for Framm

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: dee Mar 5 2018, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (Marquessa @ Mar 5 2018, 09:47 PM)
My vote is between Dee and Mo...so Mo whats UP?


Huh. Why Mo?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 02:52 PM
QUOTE (Marquessa @ Mar 6 2018, 06:47 AM)
My vote is between Dee and Mo...so Mo whats UP?

Mo was one of the first people on Insaner, so how likely is a massive D1 bus of not only a block but a vote manip?

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (Marquessa @ Mar 5 2018, 12:47 PM)
My vote is between Dee and Mo...so Mo whats UP?


Not much. I claimed spy day 1 and got a baddie lynched.

You?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:03 PM
QUOTE (Marquessa @ Mar 6 2018, 06:47 AM)
My vote is between Dee and Mo...so Mo whats UP?

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lmao.gif just got it

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 03:18 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 01:57 PM)
DarthMask Sorry I'm not buying it. You have pretty much locked yourself into claiming a particular role. Unfortunately I have seen something that suggests someone else is that role


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/woohoo.gif

found him

I am voting Phaze

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:21 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 6 2018, 07:18 AM)
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 01:57 PM)
DarthMask Sorry I'm not buying it. You have pretty much locked yourself into claiming a particular role. Unfortunately I have seen something that suggests someone else is that role


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/woohoo.gif

found him

I am voting Phaze

Could you please explain you reasoning?

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 03:22 PM
I already have. Either you missed it hard or you have information that you absolutely should not have.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:25 PM
QUOTE (DarthMask @ Mar 6 2018, 07:22 AM)
I already have.  Either you missed it hard or you have information that you absolutely should not have.

If I can explain what I saw, do you agree that we should lynch you?

Posted by: DarthMask Mar 5 2018, 03:31 PM
I actually don't mind if you lynch me. My loss will not be a serious affectation to the game whatsoever and it will incriminate at least one if not both of the remaining baddies (assuming Boq was not one...but I find that unlikely at this point).

Point being, if you had actually understood my soft claim you would only want to get rid of me if you were bad...also you would not in any way be able to CC me except with one of a bald-faced lie or a hard role claim of my soft claim. Take your pick, but going against my claim at this point is anti-town at best and actively pro-baddie at worst. I have nothing to lose.

So, your explanation? I'll check in again after I complete my drive home from work.

Posted by: Machina Mar 5 2018, 03:32 PM
1. maurice - voting for Hirkala
2. DarthMask - voting for Phaze
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee - voting for Framm

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:35 PM
DarthMask I have already provided evidence concerning why I think Maurice was redirected last night, you have not
So I give you the choice between

A) Why I think Boq was the target spy?
B) Why I think someone else has claimed you role?

The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead.

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 03:36 PM
Can I choose?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 6 2018, 07:36 AM)
Can I choose?

sure why not

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 03:43 PM
A.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:45 PM
Actually shall we do both?

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 01:45 PM)
Actually shall we do both?


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 03:57 PM
A. It didn't click for me until I realized that Boquise was one of the first people on Insaner then I went back and saw his posts in a new light.
Initially I thought that Boquise was a baddie and trying to egg Insaner on and provide guidance for my lynch D1
The best way to explain this is to start with an assumption and see if it fits like a glove unfortunately
Assuming Boquise was the follow spy and followed Insaner N1 he might have his suspicion that Insaner might have been the block when he saw Insaner rock up to my place but needed to check that assumption
When he asked Insaner about his thoughts about me he was trying to establish if Insaner was a spy
When he asked me if it was possible if Shulk blocked me and I replied that there would be a CC if that was true he knew that his assumption was reasonable
Hence he had voted for Insaner even before Maurice outed
Am I sure of this? well it is not 100% but it fits like a glove

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 04:02 PM
B.
@DM I need you to stop me if I make a misstep as it may not be only your role that I expose

Your questioning about redirection only makes sense if you are claiming Sharla rather than Reyn

I believe I have seen something that suggests someone else is Sharla....

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 04:05 PM
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 5 2018, 01:57 PM)
A.  It didn't click for me until I realized that Boquise was one of the first people on Insaner then I went back and saw his posts in a new light. 
Initially I thought that Boquise was a baddie and trying to egg Insaner on and provide guidance for my lynch D1
The best way to explain this is to start with an assumption and see if it fits like a glove unfortunately
Assuming Boquise was the follow spy and followed Insaner N1 he might have his suspicion that Insaner might have been the block when he saw Insaner rock up to my place but needed to check that assumption
When he asked Insaner about his thoughts about me he was trying to establish if Insaner was a spy
When he asked me if it was possible if Shulk blocked me and I replied that there would be a CC if that was true he knew that his assumption was reasonable 
Hence he had voted for Insaner even before Maurice outed
Am I sure of this? well it is not 100% but it fits like a glove



It fits nicely. I am 99% sure boq is not target spy. Picked up a hint and he confirmed it.


Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 04:14 PM
Don't know what that does to your analysis, but you should know.

Also, I made a friend last night. I'm sure baddies assume that so I'll confirm for everyone else.

Posted by: Hirkala Mar 5 2018, 04:14 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 5 2018, 10:07 AM)

I have one more play and then I guess I'd support a Hachi lynch.

*maurice votes Hirkala

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/wave.gif Hey, bro! How's it going? Oh... You're voting for me... Right. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif

I'm looking at options right now. There are 5 possibles that can survive the night kills. Shulk, Dunban, Zanza, Egil and whoever Sharla saves. If saves don't show up, then it can't be proven that SH and Hachi were saved without Sharla outing herself or without Reyn/Shulk outing themselves. Dunban will be found out today. So, there's two that can only be found out only by lynching them. (Unless they want to out themselves. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/lol.gif)

I find it unlikely that Sharla would target either SH or Hachi. More likely she went for mo or Phaze. So, I've tentatively eliminated her result from the night. There are also some strange, but surprisingly effective options for the Baddies. With that redirect still there, they can redirect most of the Goodies to Zanza and gain from it. The kill would be ineffective, the spies would show as innocent, the vote manip would help them a ton, Alvis can't be redirected and a save would help a lot. Even the block from Shulk wouldn't be bad if Zanza wasn't using the Boost. It would also act as a limited spy on whomever they redirected, such as if they pegged Fiora and saw the kill fail. So, there is definitely the chance that SH is Zanza. That is my strongest lead right now.

I don't know about Hachi. Could be Dunban, as he claims, or could be Egil. Only thing that makes me lean toward him being Dunban is that no one has CC'ed that claim (that I've seen, I may have missed it and if so, my bad, I'll jump on board a Hachi lynch.) So, strong lean toward Hachi as Dunban, stronger lean toward SH being Zanza.

That's what I have so far. Don't lynch me so I can expand on those reads and find more.

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 04:14 PM
DarthMask
QUOTE (Phaze @ Mar 6 2018, 08:02 AM)
B. 
@DM I need you to stop me if I make a misstep as it may not be only your role that I expose

Your questioning about redirection only makes sense if you are claiming Sharla rather than Reyn

I believe I have seen something that suggests someone else is Sharla....


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/facepalm.gif labels

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 04:19 PM
Good post Hirkala. That's how you defend. No, I need questions bull rap. Just ve pro town.

DM is the only thing keeping me from voting sparrowhawk but I don't even get what he's getting at. To me there is more risk to not voting sparrowhawk than anyone else.


Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 04:20 PM
1. maurice - voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee - voting for Framm
2. DarthMask - voting for Phaze
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee - voting for Framm

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

Posted by: dee Mar 5 2018, 04:25 PM
why do i have two names in roster?

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 04:31 PM
QUOTE (maurice @ Mar 6 2018, 08:14 AM)
Don't know what that does to your analysis, but you should know.

Also, I made a friend last night. I'm sure baddies assume that so I'll confirm for everyone else.

I can work with that

Posted by: Phaze Mar 5 2018, 04:32 PM
QUOTE (dee @ Mar 6 2018, 08:25 AM)
why do i have two names in roster?

Which one are you?

Posted by: maurice Mar 5 2018, 04:35 PM
1. maurice - voting for sparrowhawk
2. DarthMask - voting for Phaze
3. Framm
4. Hachi
6. Marquessa
7. onetruth
9. Hirkala
10. sparrowhawk - voting for dee
11. Phaze - voting for sparrowhawk
12. dee - voting for Framm

Graveyard:
5. araver - Killed N1 by Zanza's Disciples
13. Insaner - Lynched D1 and revealed to be Dickson
8. Boquise - Killed N2 by Egil

QUOTE (dee @ Mar 5 2018, 02:25 PM)
why do i have two names in roster?


I probably copied too much when I copied the "voting for sparrowhawk" whoops

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