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 Robert De Niro Mafia, You talkin' to me?
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  Posted Apr 15 2017, 04:40 PM



We all know that Robert De Niro is a great actor. He doesn't portray characters on film...he creates characters. Literally. Creates them. They exist in a dimension that most of us can't access. Only he is able to tap into them and bring them to life. However, they interact with each other. While you may think that they would all get along, you would be mistaken to do so. A collection of the biggest egos and most outlandish personalities ever put on celluloid,Robert De Niro's characters have recently begun to jostle for control of his legacy.

BADDIES - GOODIE TWO SHOES: Believe that Robert De Niro should be remembered for his fine acting, even when he portrays everyday people and family men. WINCON - Gain a majority that can not be overcome. Have BTSC and a NightKill. The NightKill can be traded for two attempts at a RID Kill, but not two nights in a row. If either attempt fails, whether due to Indy or because wrong, both fail. RID Kills can be saved. This does not count as a failure.

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Michael Vronsky - The Deer Hunter - Vote Manip. Can make any other player's vote = x0 or x2

Donald Rimgale - Backdraft - Uses knowledge of fire to stop target's action. Block

Jack Byrnes - Meet the Parents - Selects a target. If Jack is spied he will be told the target's role and the spy will be told that Jack is the target's role. On subsequent nights Jack can choose whether to be seen as the previous role or the current target. Forger/Passive Spy

Pat Solitano, Sr. - Silver Linings Playbook - OTDG, inherits action of any dead Gangster. Chooses at any time after a Gangster has died.



GOODIES - DELINQUENTS AND PSYCHOPATHS: Believe that De Niro's best work was when he played characters who existed on the edge of society. WINCON - kill all baddies and Indies

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Jimmy Conway - Goodfellas - Has connections with influential people and can prevent actions from happening. Block

Sam "Ace" Rothstein - Casino - Casino executive with mafia ties. Dice Roll (1.Spy 2. Save 3. Block 4. RID Kill 5. Kill 6. Reroll {odd = none, even = choice})

Travis Bickle - Taxi Driver - Uses his cab to tail his target. Choice between Target and Follow Spy*

Jake La Motta - Raging Bull - Boxer. Save. Can not save same player twice unless all live Goodies have been saved

Al Capone - The Untouchables - Has connections all over the city who provide him with information on people. Role Spy*

Max Cady - Cape Fear - Unstable killer. Kill

Vito Corleone - The Godfather II - Vote manip. Can make any other player's vote = x0 or x2

Neil McCauley - Heat - Burglar that can get into people's homes and leave messages. Messenger. 200 characters. Smiley's = 1 character

The Creature (Frankenstein's Monster) - Mary Shelley's Frankenstein - From Dr. Frankenstein's lab, the Creature has come across doses of L-Dopa. Each night, he targets a player to give a dose to. Further explanation in the Indy RD. ODTG can take a dead player into Dr. Frankenstein's lab and revives them. The creature can not die until N2.

Gil Renard - The Fan - Trap - Selects a player and kidnaps them. They do not act at night and are saved from Night Kills. They will be given BTSC for the DAY (any other BTSC will be lost). The target can not speak on the main thread nor be voted for during the day. Gil may execute the target. The choice is made in the BTSC and may be changed up to the end of the day. BTSC's will be saved and accessible by Gil, but he may choose to "delete" them. If Gil chooses Jack Byrnes he will die at the end of the night and Jack will gain access to all saved BTSC, unless Gil is saved.

* the Goodie spies will get the results of the other spy's action and not their own so long as the other spy was alive when the night started. Otherwise, they will get their own result.


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INDY: Would not mind if De Niro's work was just forgotten, much like him. WINCON - Successfully RID two goodies.

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Leonard Lowe - Awakenings - 1) each night chooses a goodie role. If the role is dead they will receive only that player's name. If the role is alive they will receive that player's name plus a random alive goodie and alive baddie.
2) RID Zombify - each night may choose a RID. Target must be a Goodie. If the RID is correct, then that player will be moved into a "catatonic state". They will not be notified, but Leonard will be given a success notice. It will be as if that player is dead. Beginning that night, they cannot be acted on nor act. All actions of those types will return as a failure. Votes on them will not count. The only action that can be done on them is for The Creature to give them a dose of L-Dopa. This will "awaken" them for one cycle, night and day. If L-Dopa is given the same night as a successful RID then the catatonic state is delayed one cycle. If Indy wins then the game continues but Leonard goes back into a catatonic state. If a RID Kill is tried on a catatonic player it will fail. Action 1 can be blocked, action 2 can not. Can not die until D2.


Each player is expected to participate during the Day Phase. Therefore at the beginning of each day phase players eligible to be lynched will start with 5 votes on them. Posting reduces the votes thusly:

1 Post - 3 votes
2 posts - 1 vote
3+ posts - 0 votes

Posting the roster and adding a vote, without saying anything else will not count as a vote. Posts within 10 minutes of each other will count as 1 post, unless they are addressing different posts quoted within the post.

Tie rules -
1. Fewest posts up to 3
2. Most votes on previous days
3. Roll of 20 sided die. Highest number dies.
4. Nobody dies

Kills are not blocking. RID Kill can be saved.


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  Posted Apr 15 2017, 04:41 PM
Still willing to listen to input, especially as plasmid hasn't reviewed it to my knowledge


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  Posted Apr 15 2017, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (mo_d @ Apr 15 2017, 02:41 PM)
Still willing to listen to input, especially as plasmid hasn't reviewed it to my knowledge

I don't see any major issues, just role interactions to think about before having to make gametime decisions.

If Jack Byrnes gets follow/target spied, does he mess with and see that spy result like he does for a rolespy? If not, would a follow spy see him as acting on who he picks as a target (assuming he doesn't also get simultaneously role spied to activate his ability)? If blocks appear in the NP (what do NPs show?) and Byrnes gets follow spied as acting on nobody if his ability doesn't kick in, then follow spying someone and seeing them act on someone other than the baddie block target would almost completely clear them as non-baddie.

If Leonard Lowe gets follow spied while he RID catatonicizes player A and indy spies role N, what does the follow spy see? Does it depend on whether the RID is successful or failed?

Does catatonicity of one of the goodie spies mean the other spy gets their own spy results or does it still go to the catatonic player? If one of the spies gets blocked while both are still alive, who (if anyone) gets informed of the block? Speaking of which, do blockers get told if they successfully stopped an action that would've otherwise occurred, or some other form of success/failure?

Catatonic players' votes count?

If Leonard Lowe is up for lynch D1, does no one die so he gets outed as indy? (Can't be catatonic because then someone else would die.) Another option is that D1 votes on him don't count (as if he were catatonic) and the player with the next most dies. Would he appear as saved if he gets targeted for a kill N1 or N2; if so, would the NP say which goodie saved him to out him as indy to that goodie?

Can Frankenstein L-Dopa himself?

I'm guessing Gil gets an anon account for BTSC.

Back to work; 'tis brutal indeed now.

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  Posted Apr 15 2017, 05:40 PM
QUOTE (plasmid @ Apr 15 2017, 05:34 PM)
QUOTE (mo_d @ Apr 15 2017, 02:41 PM)
Still willing to listen to input, especially as plasmid hasn't reviewed it to my knowledge

I don't see any major issues, just role interactions to think about before having to make gametime decisions.

If Jack Byrnes gets follow/target spied, does he mess with and see that spy result like he does for a rolespy? any spy results will yield the results as if he were the target.
So if he is follow spied the spy gets results as if his target was follow spied, and Jack gets those results as well.
If not, would a follow spy see him as acting on who he picks as a target (assuming he doesn't also get simultaneously role spied to activate his ability)? If blocks appear in the NP (what do NPs show?) and Byrnes gets follow spied as acting on nobody if his ability doesn't kick in, then follow spying someone and seeing them act on someone other than the baddie block target would almost completely clear them as non-baddie.I think this is now a non-issue, correct?

If Leonard Lowe gets follow spied while he RID catatonicizes player A and indy spies role N, what does the follow spy see?the RID as the spy is on a role, not player Does it depend on whether the RID is successful or failed? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/nope.gif

Does catatonicity of one of the goodie spies mean the other spy gets their own spy results or does it still go to the catatonic player? since player is basically dead they "live"
player gets his own results
If one of the spies gets blocked while both are still alive, who (if anyone) gets informed of the block? the player blockedSpeaking of which, do blockers get told if they successfully stopped an action that would've otherwise occurred, or some other form of success/failure?For me blocking a player does not depend on a blockable action. So if a player has no action or doesn't act I'd say the block was a success.

Catatonic players' votes count?No. They are basically dead

If Leonard Lowe is up for lynch D1, does no one die so he gets outed as indy? (Can't be catatonic because then someone else would die.) Another option is that D1 votes on him don't count (as if he were catatonic) and the player with the next most dies. Would he appear as saved if he gets targeted for a kill N1 or N2; if so, would the NP say which goodie saved him to out him as indy to that goodie?I usually like to protect the Indy in these situations so let me fix this...

Can Frankenstein L-Dopa himself?I will tweak this so either Leonard can't catatonize him or he can give himself a double dosage or something in lieu of another player (else what's the point) So I think N1 can give himself enough to last through D2 (or prevents it for those two nights)

I'm guessing Gil gets an anon account for BTSC. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/yes.gif

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If Leonard Lowe is up for lynch D1, does no one die so he gets outed as indy? (Can't be catatonic because then someone else would die.) Another option is that D1 votes on him don't count (as if he were catatonic) and the player with the next most dies. Would he appear as saved if he gets targeted for a kill N1 or N2; if so, would the NP say which goodie saved him to out him as indy to that goodie?I usually like to protect the Indy in these situations so let me fix this...

Can Frankenstein L-Dopa himself?I will tweak this so either Leonard can't catatonize him or he can give himself a double dosage or something in lieu of another player (else what's the point) So I think N1 can give himself enough to last through D2 (or prevents it for those two nights)


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QUOTE (maurice @ Apr 26 2017, 04:01 PM)
If Leonard Lowe is up for lynch D1, does no one die so he gets outed as indy? (Can't be catatonic because then someone else would die.) Another option is that D1 votes on him don't count (as if he were catatonic) and the player with the next most dies. Would he appear as saved if he gets targeted for a kill N1 or N2; if so, would the NP say which goodie saved him to out him as indy to that goodie?I usually like to protect the Indy in these situations so let me fix this...depending on what the dice roll goodie does either a random goodie or Jake will save him.  Immunity is now through D1 as I only wanted him to have 2 attempts which still happens.  If lynched D1 he is not outted since the Creature also has immunity.  He will though have immunity extended through D2. 

Can Frankenstein L-Dopa himself?I will tweak this so either Leonard can't catatonize him or he can give himself a double dosage or something in lieu of another player (else what's the point)  So I think N1 can give himself enough to last through D2 (or prevents it for those two  nights)the Creature cannot be catatonized unless there are no goodies available, so L-Dopaing himself is initially pointless


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