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 The Divergent Series: Divergent Mafia, With Correct BTSC Perms this time. :)
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  Posted Dec 9 2016, 11:46 PM
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THE DIVERGENT SERIES: DIVERGENT


BADDIES: WINCON: Outnumber Goodies & Must Outlive Peter, NK: No Carrier

Jeanine (Erudite): Erudite’s leader. She just seems to know everything, and knows how to exploit everything too. But then Tris comes along… Let’s just say Jeanine doesn’t know EVERYTHING… (FACTION SPY, 1X UNKILLABLE AT NIGHT)

Eric (Dauntless): One of the Dauntless leaders. One of Jeanine’s favorites and will do anything to assist her so Abnegation is no longer Chicago’s governing faction. (REDIRECT)

Max (Dauntless): Another of the Dauntless leaders. He too is on the side of Jeanine and will use his muscle to prove it. (BLOCK)



GOODIES: WINCON: Eliminate All Baddies & Must Outlive Peter

Tris Pryor (Divergent): She is the heroine, she is apparently the only 100% Divergent out there, but she is a long way from knowing that at this stage. She knows she does not conform to just one faction though, which makes her an adversary to those that want the faction system and only the faction system. She truly is the diamond in the rough. (1X UNKILLABLE AT NIGHT; ALSO CHOICE: ROLE SPY, FOLLOW SPY, BLOCK – MAY NOT USE SAME 2X IN A ROW; If Jeanine faction spies Tris, Jeanine will get a result of Dauntless due to Tris choosing Dauntless at the choosing ceremony.)

Four (Dauntless): Like Tris he is Divergent, but not full-fledged. He chose Dauntless to get away from his father Marcus, the leader of Abnegation. In Dauntless he has learned to be a machine, a machine that kills. But when he meets Tris, it all changes. (KILL – if he targets Tris, Tris will not die; attempted kill will not show in NP.)

Christina (Dauntless): A faction defector, just like Tris and Four, only she is from Candor, those that always find out the truth. She becomes friends with both Tris and Will. (FACTION SPY – if she spies Tris, she will get a result of Divergent.)

Tori (Dauntless): She is the one that administers the “test” to Tris and finds out what Tris truly is, but keeps it secret. She helps her with advice here and there, which in the end (along with Four protecting Tris), that advice helps Tris and blocks the chance of definite death to Tris at the hands of Dauntless leadership. (BLOCK)

Caleb Pryor (Erudite): Chooses Erudite at the choosing ceremony, but it takes him a long time to realize what Erudite will be doing. He’s virtually a pawn and doesn’t realize it until it’s almost too late. If Tris dies though it’s clear he will never forgive himself, and might just even lash out. He is mostly quiet and it’s the quiet ones you need to look at. (VENGEFUL GOODIE – if Tris dies in any way, shape or form, Caleb has 24 hours to pick 1 player and kill that player, for his sister. If 1 is not picked, random.org will determine the player that dies.)

Natalie Pryor (Abnegation): She is very protective of her children, especially Tris. In the end this really shows. (SAVE – cannot use save on self N2 and onward)

Marcus Eaton (Abnegation): The leader of Abnegation. Abnegation is the governing body of Chicago. But something definitely seems missing, which Tris is about to find out. (GOVERNOR – can stop up to 2 lynches from happening)

Andrew Pryor (Abnegation): Is amongst Abnegation leadership, a follower so to speak. (FOLLOW SPY)



INDY: WINCON: Sole Survivor

Peter (Dauntless): Defects from Candor to Dauntless, just like Christina. Except he’s a bad boy. He would love nothing more than to see Tris gone, but eventually he will change his tune. He knows war is coming and chooses to help himself, over everyone else. (1X UNKILLABLE AT NIGHT, RID ROLE COPY – is allowed to copy same player 2x in a row, but not a third time in a row – if RID is successful, action can be used next night phase/day phase – is blockable)





GAME NOTES:

Order of Faction? Indy > Baddies > Goodies

OOP? Redirect > Block > Save > Kill

Tie Lynch? Nobody dies.

Kills Blocking? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/yes.gif

What Appears in NP? Successful blocks, saves and kills

Will informational roles know they were redirected? http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/yes.gif

Endgame = 1 goodie, 1 baddie? Baddies win.


OTHER NOTES FROM IDEAS THREAD http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/glare.gif :

QUOTE (Jay Gold @ Sep 19 2016, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (plasmid @ Sep 19 2016, 09:48 PM)
QUOTE (Jay Gold @ Sep 19 2016, 04:24 PM)
I just don't want to be answering so many questions when the game is already started. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/nope.gif

If you want to pre-emptively answer mechanics questions, some that I can think of are:

Do faction spies return goodie/baddie/indy or only the thing in parenthesis by the role's name? (I'm thinking the latter but might as well say it explicitly.)

Chicago faction that is in parentheses

Will blocks appear in the NP if their target didn't attempt to use a night action? Yes If they will always appear unless something stops them (like a different blocker stopping the block, or a blocking kill stopping the block), will the player performing the block be told if their block prevented an action? No. Only successful blocks will be known by everyone. Block roles won't receive info that isn't already seen by all others.

Will the redirect be told whether or not they successfully redirected an action? Yes http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/devil.gif If they are blocked, they will just get that the redirect failed. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/angel.gif

If the indy uses a copied ability, will it appear in the NP as performed by the indy or the role he copied? Indy If he RID role copies Jeanine or Tris, will he also get an extra 1x unkillable at night for the night he uses their ability? No If he copies Tris, can he use an action she used on the previous night since she has a not 2x in a row restriction? Can use any of the 3 actions, just not the same 2x in a row http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/tongue.gif )

Then the questions start getting increasingly esoteric. Like what happens if the redirect redirects a block away from a blocking kill that would kill (and thus block) the redirect unless the block blocks the kill? Attempting to come up with all the possible scenarios and enumerate what would happen in each of them would probably get out of hand.

Answer: http://mafiamaniac.b1.jcink.com/uploads/mafiamaniac/confusedcat.gif



QUOTE (Nana7 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:45 PM)
Redirect > Block > Save > Kill
OOP rules say to start the chain with the redirect action.
so redirect on block works. block is redirected away from the kill. the kill goes through on the redirect but since the redirect has priority, it is not affected by the kill other than it dies.

When evaluating oop, always find the action with the highest priority and start the chain with that action so it occurs without any influence from any other actions within the loop. after evaluating any actions that are not within the loop.

For a real challenge, try evaluating multiple intersecting loops. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/tongue.gif

What are redirected spies told?
Spies will know if they are redirected. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/nahnah.gif

Does the indy use an action and copy another for the next night to use? why not use an action the same night it is copied, since it is a rid copy so the rid and the action to do could be given at the same time.

Indy question is also a yes.  I'd rather keep it as it is, as Indy won't die N1 anyways. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/nahnah.gif


Also I will add in the obvious point that if a 1x unkillable role gets saved at night and their bulletproof isn't gone yet, that the save would overrule the bulletproof, bulletproof would stay intact, as long as the save isn't blocked/redirected.




Head Overlooker of Chicago http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/modhello.gif : Jay

Chicago's Pawns That Just Don't Know It Yet http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shhh.gif :
1. sparrowhawk
2. dee
3. araver
4. Marquessa
5. Okosan
6. Aura
7. yuiop
8. Hachi
9. plasmodeus
10. babycee
11. maurice
12. Phaze



ROLE PM'S ARE ALL OUT. N1 STARTS RIGHT NOW. DEADLINE FOR N1 IS:

1 PM BOARD TIME ON SUNDAY 12/11/2016. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idk.gif

Love,
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  Posted Dec 9 2016, 11:47 PM
NOTE: Having trouble finding the spot to set BTSC perms. I will wait for Nana, GM or Shad to drop in. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/facepalm.gif
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  Posted Dec 9 2016, 11:47 PM
But night actions can still start and game can begin. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/devil.gif http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/popcorn.gif
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  Posted Dec 10 2016, 12:01 AM
Don't raise my hopes just to dash them again. That's all I'm saying. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/swear.gif


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@SH are you saying you are á baddie again?


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Crossing my fingers!


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  Posted Dec 10 2016, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Jay Gold @ Dec 9 2016, 11:47 PM)
NOTE:  Having trouble finding the spot to set BTSC perms.  I will wait for Nana, GM or Shad to drop in. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/facepalm.gif



This has been fixed. Thanks GM. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thankyou.gif
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  Posted Dec 11 2016, 03:55 AM
http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/ohmy.gif OH! http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/shocked.gif I forgot this even existed until I was browsing through old games and their associated sign-up threads, as I am wont to do.


http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idea.gif Who's up for making this a scum week so we can start day 1 on the 28 day anniversary of the commencement of signups? (6 day's time)


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  Posted Dec 11 2016, 04:21 AM
I don't mean to crow about it, that ain't my style, never has been and Lord willing it never will be, but I got all hints bar one:

Since I'm nothing if not a details person, I cleverly picked up the http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/glare.gif at the start of jay's post. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/thanks.gif

My instinct says to read it at an even number of wifom levels (I.e - the most obvious interp, which is that he is doing the ol' schoolyard ploy of "feign that he hates us cos he loves us") and that'd be backed up by the "All my love always and forever, http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/popcorn.gif " however it is far beneath me to assume on these matters.

Have you dropped any hints and if so, how so, why so and may I have an approximate post range to search through?


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  Posted Dec 11 2016, 08:57 AM
Only 4 hours left to decide whether we want a scum week.



REFERENDUM ON SCUM WEEK
1. sparrowhawk
2. dee
3. araver
4. Marquessa
5. Okosan
6. Roger Ramjet - Yes
7. yuiop
8. Hachi
9. plasmodeus
10. babycee
11. maurice
12. Phaze

Yes - 1
No - 0


Only cos I don't think all host questions will be answered before deadline, so that makes it harder to decide about my action. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/hmm.gif

If jay answers them, then I'll change to "No".


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  Posted Dec 11 2016, 09:00 AM
Clearly people aren't voting because they don't want to invoke the wrath of fellow MMers over such a touchy subject as extending the commencement of a slow moving game.

http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idea.gif Maybe Jay can add an anonymous poll! http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/biggrin.gif

Better http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/idea.gif Maybe Jay can just answer the host queries and we get on with it. http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/glare.gif

Okay, I realised that if we all congregate here approximately 1 hour after the N1 deadline, we can celebrate 100 hours since N1 originally started!
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  Posted Dec 11 2016, 11:08 AM
Two Hours Left for the scum vote.


Link to roster here

I almost feel a bit silly for suggesting it, to be honest... http://mafiamaniac.org/smile/unsure.gif



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No


And if I were in your btsc I'd be telling you to clam up right about now. Which tells me a little something about your fellow baddies.


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